Hitler and the Art of the Deal – WW2 – 058 – October 5 1940

Hitler and the Art of the Deal – WW2 – 058 – October 5 1940

October 5, 1940 They are the European leaders of the Berlin-Rome-Tokyo
Axis and they have big plans for the future. This week, Hitler meets with Mussolini. I’m Indy Neidell; this is World War Two. Last week, Italy, Germany, and Japan signed
the Tri-Partite Pact, officially creating the Axis Powers. This was in large part to dissuade the US
from entering the war or expanding its influence in the Far East. The Battle of Britain continued, the Battle
of 100 regiments did as well, and the British and Free French tried and failed to take Dakar. I’m gonna do something a bit differently
today. I’m gonna look at some numbers for the whole
month of October. In the month (RC), the British lose 103 ships
for 443,000 tons. U-Boats sink 352,400 of this. Shipping convoys now have escorts as far as
19 degrees west- that’s around 300 miles west of Ireland. But there are not enough escorts to go around. Germany is also helped a lot by the Atlantic
bases taken with the fall of France. They no longer have to run the gauntlet of
the North Sea. Germany now also widely uses Wolfpack tactics
with U-Boat groups. “There is little that can be done against
these or against the U-Boats favorite technique of attacking on the surface from within the
center of a convoy at night. The submarine presents only a small, insignificant
profile to visual search and radar is not yet advanced enough to conquer this deficiency. The listening devices with which escorts are
equipped are not able to discern the difference between the sound of a submarine and the sound
of the ships of the convoy, and Asdic (sonar) is only effective against submerged submarines. Even if they are sighted, the U-Boats are
often able to escape into the darkness because they are faster on the surface than the corvettes
which form a large part of the escort forces.” I’ll jump forward it again with some aerial
figures from James Holland. In October, the Luftwaffe will lose 379 aircraft
and British fighter command 185. Actually, just this week on the 4th, in spite
of all the fighting in the skies the past three months, and all the lost planes and
pilots, Fighter Command for the first time has 700 planes ready to take off. There’s a change in the British High Command
this week. On the 3rd, former PM Neville Chamberlain
resigns from the War Cabinet. Herbert Morrison replaces John Anderson as
Home Secretary on the 4th. Chamberlain is a sick man by this time- hence
his resignation. He left London a couple weeks ago and collapsed
when he got home and had to stay in bed for a few days. He had offered his resignation then, but PM
Winston Churchill had refused it. Chamberlain will resign as Leader of the Conservative
Party on the 9th and will be replaced by Churchill. By this time Chamberlain is aware that his
illness is likely terminal. Of course, many people in Britain have died
recently, because of the Luftwaffe’s bombing campaign. The civilian death toll in Britain for September
from the Blitz is 6,954. On October 5th, though, Adolf Hitler calls
off the daytime bombing raids of London. He’s been losing too many planes. The nighttime raids will, however, continue. He’s quite busy this week, meeting the 4th
with Italian leader Benito Mussolini at the Bremner Pass. Hitler warns Mussolini against starting new
military campaigns, and they talk about the Mediterranean and how to use it against Britain. Hitler suggests to Mussolini that Spain might
be brought into the war on the Axis side, maybe by offering Spanish dictator Francisco
Franco part of French North Africa.Then Germany could use Gibraltar, which would be a big
deal. And to make the French accept the deal, they
could offer them part of British West Africa. Mussolini seems pretty sold on the whole thing,
but since the whole idea involves him getting Tunis, Corsica, and Nice from France, that
makes sense. When Hitler gets back to Berlin he will arrange
for visits to Franco and Vichy French leader Philippe Petain, and also will invite Soviet
FM Vyacheslav Molotov for a visit to talk about what Germany and the USSR can do to
take advantage of Britain in its current state. And now a few words about Operation Felix. It involves Gibraltar. Okay, going back to the Battle of France,
there were those who advised Hitler to make moves on Gibraltar and North Africa next,
instead of Britain. Reichsmarshall Hermann Göring advised an
occupation of Spain, General Heinz Guderian suggested sending two panzer divisions through
Spain to occupy Gibraltar, and Alfred Jodl, armed forces chief of staff, even came up
with a plan to isolate Britain by invading North Africa, Gibraltar, and Spain, and taking
the Suez Canal, instead of invading Britain. German Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, an expert
on Spain, went to Spain in July to assess the situation. Now, we know that Canaris is actually working
from within against Hitler and Germany. So when he returns to Germany and says Franco
doesn’t want to join the war, it is because he is actively dissuading Franco from joining
the Axis Powers. Canaris also knows that Germany could take
Gibraltar if they send enough men and machines there, but he reported negatively. Specifically, “…without 15 inch heavy
assault cannon- which he knew were not available- Gibraltar could not be taken… he gave his
opinion that even if Germany with Spain’s cooperation were able to take Gibraltar, the
British would land in Morocco and French West Africa.” Canaris met with Franco a couple of times,
actually, and told him things like if Spain joins the Axis, then Britain might invade
Spain, and not to be worried about turning down Germany because they have zero of their
own plans to invade Spain because Hitler is thinking about the USSR. According to John Waller in “The Unseen
War in Europe”, Canaris even told Franco he does not think Germany can win the war,
so don’t join the Axis Powers. Franco got pretty confident by all of this
so his demands- if Spain were to cooperate with Germany- are to receive Gibraltar AND
French Morocco. Germany must also provide wheat and oil to
help the Spanish economy, and German forces must first land on Britain proper in an invasion. Hitler sent Canaris to meet Franco again to
get him to soften his demands, and Canaris again told Franco that it would be stupid
to join the losing side. Hitler, though, has approved a general plan
for taking Gibraltar. Operation Felix calls for two Army Corps to
enter Spain via the Pyrenees; one to assault Gibraltar and the other in reserve. There would be air support as well. The whole thing is to be under Walther von
Reichenau and the plan has ambitions to take Spanish North African territory and the Canary
Islands. Well, Hitler is now going to meet Franco in
person in a couple weeks and try to convince him himself to join the war. And at the eastern end of German occupied
territory, on October 1st, Operation Otto begins. This is a program of construction and improvement
of the roads and railways leading to the border with the Soviet Union. All in preparation for a German invasion next
spring. All these invasion plans. And far to the east, the Chinese are still
trying to fight off an invasion. Though by now, phase two of the Battle of
100 Regiments is slowly giving way to phase three. “…characterized by ferocious Japanese
efforts to mop up opposition and a de escalation of the 8th Route Army operations back to the
level of guerrilla warfare.” It is true that the Chinese Communist Army
regiments are dispersing into smaller units and being pulled back to the relative safety
of their base areas. And as the battle goes on- and it doesn’t
have a real end, it just peters out- the Communist forces will be on the defensive. Perhaps a few small tactical engagements or
a little harassment and sabotage will happen, but there are no hundred regiments left with
which to give battle. That does not mean that Mao and the Communist
leaders announce the battle to be over. Far from it, because they still need to use
it as propaganda to show that their United Front with the Nationalist forces is still
united. Especially with things like the nationalists
and communists fighting with each other this week- which I’ll cover next week- but which
threaten the united front. Another sort of united front was declared
last week- the tripartite pact between Japan, Germany, and Italy. Because of that pact, and also the Japanese
occupation of French Indochina last week, Britain has been re-assessing things. Britain now plans to soon reopen the Burma
Road, closed these past few months, a major supply route for the Chinese Nationalists. But this is not going to go over well with
Japan. So Winston Churchill asks US President FDR
to “send an American Squadron, the bigger the better, to pay a friendly visit to Singapore…
anything in this direction would have a marked deterrent effect upon a Japanese declaration
of war on us over the Burma Road opening.” At a meeting the 5th, Admiral Harold Stark,
Chief of American naval Operations, strongly opposes this. He is supported by Undersecretary of State
Sumner Welles, who has Roosevelt’s ear. Roosevelt tells Stark the next day- tomorrow-
to cancel the order for sending 4,000 Marines to various Pacific stations. He would rather have an army division reinforce
Hawaii. The General Staff opposes this, though. What they say they need is antiaircraft personnel
to man the equipment that is already there on Oahu. Also on the 5th, the Tripartite Pact is condemned
by American Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox and he announces he’s calling up some of
the naval reserve. And here are a couple of notes to end the
week. On the 1st, the Germans and Finns reach an
agreement- the Germans promise arms and the Finns will sell them nickel from the mines
near Petsamo in exchange. And on the 3rd, all Jews in occupied Warsaw
are directed to move into the ghetto. The 150,000 Jews in Warsaw that do not already
live in the mainly Jewish district are ordered to move there, and it is to be walled in. So 400,000 people will live where 250,000
had lived before. Those ordered to move can only take what they
can carry in their arms or on a handcart. Everything else, furniture, kitchen equipment,
all the things that make a house a home, must be abandoned. And of course, the 100,000 Poles living in
what is now to be the ghetto, are likewise uprooted. On the 4th, Jews in Praga, across the river
from Warsaw, are also ordered to move to the Warsaw Ghetto. And the week ends, with Adolf Hitler making
plans for the future, the Chinese still fighting for their future, the British planning to
help provide for that, but for Neville Chamberlain and the Jews of Warsaw, future prospects are
growing dim. Imagine being Neville Chamberlain just now. Dragged into a war you not only didn’t want,
but didn’t even believe could happen. An object of ridicule to many for believing
Hitler’s promises in spite of the mounting evidence that they were false, an object of
admiration to some for still believing honor or decency had some sort of a place in a darkening
world. And now knowing that the end is near and there
is no end to the war in sight. Imagine going through everything he’s done
the past few years and knowing that you will not be around to find out who wins. That must be pure torture. The Germans and Spanish actually have some
recent history working together during the Spanish Civil War, particularly with regard
to aerial bombing. You can check out our episode of Between 2
Wars about the horrors of civilian bombing campaigns right here. Our Patron of the week is Yaroslav Mochalin. Thanks to his and your support, we are able
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100 thoughts on “Hitler and the Art of the Deal – WW2 – 058 – October 5 1940

  1. As the Axis powers are looking to broaden their horizon, it might be interesting to take a look at Italian tank development in the Interwar Years. The Chieftain, with whom we occasionally cooperate on this channel, made a video telling you all about it. You can watch that right here: https://youtu.be/hSZporHH5sM. Make sure to subscribe to his channel as well, since he makes a lot of top tier tank content!

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  2. Your kind comments about the downtrodden, in this case Chamberlain, are always appreciated, and the always lend depth to history.

  3. I understand that you’ll be completely biased
    We will be waiting on your reference to Biden’s son towards the Hitler invasion of the Ukraine

  4. Wait a second,the comments are a few days ago,but this video was released hours ago?Youtube is drunk.

  5. Guess what??
    If I posted something like this against a current President of The United States??
    I’d delete it and correct it. It’s just what most civil and decent people would do.

  6. Can you imagine what the shit storm would have been if someone associated an Obama title with Adolf Hitler would have been ???

  7. Any Obama reference to Hitler??
    Yes , you’re being hateful.

  8. Hey Indy, no thin skin here and I get the need to grab those metrics that let you pay the bills. Show us all you're serious and not afraid of the big bad wolf of censorship. Use this title for a future episode: "Hitler to the Jews in forced labor camps; You Didn't Build that, Someone Else Made That Happen!!" Still quite current ( also spoken by proud Native American Elizabeth Warren ), should provide you with lots of clicks and keep you running for many weeks to come. After all, it's not like you're a bunch of one sided, small minded political hacks or anything like that. So come on Indy, show us your balance! Reference Hitler and the Great One in the same title. You can do it……

  9. Indy I gotta know man, who are you talking to on the phone?! This is the real question here.. I just can't anymore

  10. There are ads? That's great, not yet demonetized!

  11. Good idea to hurry up and make another video and pray to put this one deep into your past

  12. Maybe an odd question, but how did Hitler and Mussolini communicate with each other? I don't recall ever seeing/hearing anything that suggested that either were multilingual, and its seems out of character for either of two megalomaniacs to bother to try and learn a "foreign" language, even that of an ostensible ally, or to make much use of interpreters. So how did two puffed up and demonstrably not very bright individuals develop a relatively close relationship?

  13. More antiaircraft on Oahu? I don't believe that will be necessary. 😉

  14. That canaris guy's impact seems to be understated!

  15. Love this series! Way better to binge watch this than any Netflix series!

  16. This is the only channel where seeing Ads make me happy. Still watching since TGW in 2015!

  17. Sumner Welles, for better or worse, was always an interesting guy in FDR's administration.

  18. Wow, Canaris really stuck it to the Nazis.

  19. These episodes feel as if they end before they even start. I love this channel and can't get enough. Keep up the great work guys.

  20. Harold Stark is sexy as hell. That's easily the best portrait on anyone in WW2

  21. Apparently, this channel drives on the Liberal Left, Anti-American now

  22. I'm not sure if Canaris lost the war for the Axis, but without him a LOT of things would've been much different. Spanish entry into the war would've likely won the Mediterranean for the Axis, and their troops might've tipped the balance in the east. Whole lot of what ifs.

    Also, it's tough whenever you guys cover what's happening in Poland. Makes me sad and angry thinking about the stupidity and evil of what is/will be done. It really highlights just how much more brutal and black and white WWII is compared to your coverage of WWI.

  23. Wow, this whole time I thought Spain never considered entering the war, this was an incredibally interesting and enlightening video.

  24. Every week this just gets darker and darker, when a year ago it was just a phony war

    Even with knowing what happens at various points, it still gives chills when you stop and think about what that must of really been like at that time

  25. Hey you think you could make videos without references or parallels to current day events? This is the second/third time you have used a title to reference the current american president in parallels with Hitler. The wit feels a bit daft. I appreciate the objective view of history and do not come to your channel for your political opinion. I have plenty of other youtube channels for that. Just a suggestion thanks for the content.

  26. why is the clock at 10:44? Noticed it wasn't turning in the few shots i saw of it. Wondering if it meant anything?

  27. I have often wondered why Germany did not seize Gibraltar and Malta and thus deny the Mediterranean to the British Empire. The British would have as would have the Americans, as the strategic value would have been worth the tactical cost.

  28. We Canadians used to drive on the left side of the road just like the British. But so many Americans would cross the border to drink in Canada during Prohibition and then, once drunk, forget to stay on the left and reverted over to the right. This caused so many car accidents in Canada, especially in BC, that we gave up and switched to the right side of the road. True story, believe it or not!

  29. I'd like to see a mention of Chamberlain's relationship with his American friend, U. S. Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy.

  30. People too often forget that it was Neville Chamberlain who issued the ultimatum to Hitler to get out of Poland and came through to finally declare war.

  31. what happened to my "trip to the dentist" quote?

  32. Can’t you see what you’re doing here?? Are you blind Herr Goering??
    Note the political reference to the stupidity of this channel.

  33. The Azis were more on less on top of the world at this time. Their downfall is just around the corner.

  34. 4:03 – Gibraltar
    Look up Operation Tracer.

    Scheme to seal in 6 men for up to a year inside of rock of Gibraltar in order to spy on German/Italian ships in case Gibraltar fell to Germany.

    Operation Tracer was a secret Second World War military operation in Gibraltar, a British colony and military base. The impetus for the plan was the 1940 scheme by Germany to capture Gibraltar, code-named Operation Felix.

    England govt built a covert observation post at Gibraltar, that would remain operational even if Gibraltar fell to the Axis powers. Movements of enemy vessels would be reported to the United Kingdom.

    The secret observation post measured 45 x 16 x 8 feet and was built inside of the rock of Gibraltar. Six men would hide and observe from two small openings any movement they could see on the harbor.

    The men understood that they would remain sealed in the cave for about a year, although it could be much longer and provisions for a seven-year stay were stored.

  35. Terribly sorry about Chamberlain,I never knew his health was bad,God Bless him.But, you don't EVER,EVER appease your enemies! It's suicide!

  36. Živio Drug Tito i Partije !

  37. The Blitz bombing killed more than twice as many people as the entirety of The Troubles, 35+ years.

  38. I've just realized, that the clock on the right side actually works. So you've recorded the whole episode in 16-17 minutes. That's quite some speed! At first I thought: "Nah the clock probably doesn't work. But they could put it one minute forward every week so it lands on noon the week the war ends (if it ever does?!)." Then I realized that without knowing if/when the war ends, no one can set the clock. Or maybe the clock knows something we don't…

  39. Damn ! That Canaris is truly an amazing character.
    Do you think it would have been higly probable that Franco would have join the Axis if he wasn't around ?

  40. I like how since it’s ww2 and you definitely won’t get monetized you just have the most blatant thumbnails and titles.

  41. Enough with the anti-Trump titles. It’s too obvious & not cute. Why alienate a large part of your viewers? You’re really creating enemies.

  42. Hehehe….dysfunctional as dick

  43. Actually Canaris did a favor to the Axis war effort, Spain was in no condition to fight a modern war, the army was poorly equipped, it didn't even have modern tank divisions, just light tanks, and no indigenous modern fighter planes. Spain would have been as useless to the Axis just as Italy.

  44. Let's play a game where everybody must take a shot everytime spain was mentioned in the video

  45. Love your videos!

    A Comment on the editing – Is there a reason that you do not crop out all the black from the old footage? Because it is a black stripe left on each side still after you have filled it with blurred out footage to make a fake full screen.

    It has just bugged me for a while

    Keep up the good work! 😁

  46. This is my favourite channel. I love what you do!

  47. One of the was heroes of the greek war of independance is Constantinos Kanaris, is he anyhow related to Wilhelm Canaris?

  48. That Canaris was a bold fellow, to be sure.

  49. Okay, why the actual f*ck is this the first time I'm hearing of this Canaris guy? Sounds like he played an integral role in the Mediterranean.

  50. Nice title, "no pun intended" or?

  51. Hungary's map is still wrong. Carpatho-Ukraine became part of Hungary since March 1939.

  52. I have argued for a long time that not taking gibralter was one of nazi germanys big mistake.

  53. 10:02 "Who has Roosevelts ear (and Hitlers moustache)"

  54. A little under 5 years to go! Keep it up, Indy, this is absolutely my favourite channel.

  55. so now the politics of the creators are laid bare for all to see. How Dare you conflate a book written by the current POTUS with Adolf Hitler? Because Orange Man Bad. Screw you guys; you've lost me.

  56. Wow! I briefly read some stuff on Canaris on Wikipedia. It seems he really deserves some respect.

  57. Wouldn’t the German occupation army be enough to make France accept the deal, same as the allied occupation of Germany forcing Versailles?

  58. Love your take on Chamberlain. A vilified figure for his views on appeasement, he never got to see the war’s outcome…It probably was indeed pure hell for him..

  59. Sabaton e

  60. Make Germany great again lol

  61. Outstanding as always. It overwhelms me the things I don't know, and to think of the things that no one will ever know as the people who were there are dead, with no record of what they experienced.

  62. You people seriously need to stop calling Indy with silly questions right as he starts filming.

  63. Hi Andy! Just found your channel. As a ww2 history buff, your week to week series is unique and very well put together.
    Question: is your Ch. still being de-monetized? If so, why??
    Thanks again!🇺🇸

  64. i was born in north morocco, near the coast
    and am glad the amerikans helped out a lot !
    1 for all.

  65. Chamberlain certainly deserves criticism for his naivety. Though I don't think he deserves all the shit he gets. He was trying to prevent another war. Can you honestly blame him? Had it worked out, he'd be a hero. Had he started a war, he'd be demonized for all the bloodshed. Millions dead, on his hands. His mistake wasn't trying to avoid war. But giving up so much ground that when war did break out, the Allies were in a weaker position.

  66. Spain sent a full division up to the northern Russian front so I guess Franco gave Hitler a little something. It would be interesting to know when exactly he authorized it. The unit was recalled after a year but Spaniards continued to be sent into the SS. It's a very strange episode in the history of Germanies multinational army.

  67. You got ads now. Probably temporary, like the phony war.

  68. 5:22 "an expert on Spain" lol

  69. It is hard to talk about military operations, and then move on to the sad fate of Poland, but this video does it well.

  70. Caller: "Thinking about driving down to Gibraltar after shipping my car to France. They still drive on same side of road as UK?"
    Indy: "No they don't. They don't drive on the left there anymore. They used to but they drive on the right now. Yeah they changed about ten eleven years ago."

  71. Would someone please tell me the "they" discussed in the opening phone call? I really need that trivia in my life.

  72. what If mussolini remained neutral like what happened with World War one?

  73. Another great video.

  74. Canaris (however it's spelt), saved the world by lying to Hitler and Franco.
    If Germany takes Gibraltar they easily win.

  75. Mau Zedong is the most evil human that ever lived.

  76. This series and everything you guys do is so amazing. Usually watch your stuff while I'm going to bed. Not to mean negatively it puts me to sleep but it's nice to watch while I'm laying down.

    But as this goes on, I get kind of sad because there's the realization that eventually the war is going to become so depressing with Soviet Union and Germany finally at war with each other. The escalation of the holocaust and pacific theatre of Japan brutalizing southeast asia and the eventual Pearl Habor attack which brings US into the war and total war basically takes place in every place except the United States who benefit from 2 oceans separating them.

    I'm sure you will try to remain as matter of fact as you can but I imagine it will be become very hard to not have emotional stuff in it with how many Russians and Chinese will perish and the destruction that occurs on all sides of the war.

  77. Franco did nothing wrong

  78. This did not pop up in my suggested.. I was pissed.. not b.c I had to go looking ofcourse.. b.c it's one of my most watched channels

  79. One thing this WW2 in real time series really reveals is in how short time periods there actually was large-scale ground fighting going on in Europe from the start until operation Barbarossa. First the invasion of Poland, then nothing for months. The winter war and then nothing again for couple of months. Finally the long awaited battle of France which was over in 6 weeks and there will be no large scale offensives until next spring again :/ Most of the time seems to go on with merely anticipating the next big move.

  80. An interesting development.

  81. How can they run commercials on your channel and not pay you?

  82. when is the next WAH?
    I like being depressed

  83. Prince Charles at 5:25. The Royal family are more german than we may think.

  84. I can t help but loathe people like Canaris, he knew perfectly well what a war with the USSR woukd meab for his country and instead of steering Hitler towards Southern Europe and NA ….

  85. This video is one of the most smooth episodes you’ve ever made! Awesome flow! and the way you go from one place of the world to another is amazing! Keep up the great work

  86. beautiful

  87. How many soldiers and civilians died not knowing who will win a war.

  88. HAPPY LATE B-DAY INDY!! Can I also say you don’t look a day over 30, and to be honest I though you were in your 30’s.

  89. Can you do a video on the dumbest moves in early WWII??

  90. I was born in the wrong generation

  91. Hitler: Don't be starting any new campaigns, now. We're having enough trouble with Britain as it is.

    Mussolini: Imma do what's known as a pro gamer move.

  92. “European” “Tokyo” wtf are historians smoking?

  93. Doing a special on the Blue division would be quite interesting.

  94. Chamberlain was trying to avoid war by appeasing Hitler because Britain was in no state to be fighting a global conflict. The country was stretched thin policing the Empire and hadn't the money to hold a large modern standing army.

  95. #58 (not intended to be a spoiler, but sort of a recap) an extremely busy week:
    Sadly Chamberlain’s health prompts his total resignation while watching Warsaw ghettos formed for the Polish Jews, simply horrible. Meanwhile, Hitler wheeling and dealing and passing on a possible invasion of Spain and Operation Felix. Further, wise US military brains are over ruled to reinforce Hawai’i… and the Brits open the Burma Road. Fascinating indeed! Thank you again for an insightful episode 🤣

  96. OK, now you got me. Who changed from driving on the left to driving on the right? The Canadians?

  97. Dude I need that tie

  98. It looks like the guy is moon walking in the background at 8:57 haha

  99. I'm looking forward to when Britain launches Operation Compass in December.

  100. Canaris, in the future, will be seen as a hero as much as Stauffenberg is seen now.

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