Ancient Aliens and their Technology Art Bell interview Jason Martell Ancient Astronauts,Lost History

Ancient Aliens and their Technology Art Bell interview Jason Martell Ancient Astronauts,Lost History


now we’re gonna see if I get this one doing international living is interesting I know course was over in the Philippines where we had the benefit of Asia going to preschool there and every available Southeast Asian virus we we’ve had him then preschool here and all the North American viruses they’ve been interesting and now first grade and the first grade viruses its lucky I’m here at all tonight actually we had OH before I get into that I’ve done some audio adjustments so I would like your objective opinion please as you listen on XM as you listen on Sirius and as you listen on the web whether the audio sounds okay to you I found it very very disconcerting that some people were telling me that Skype sounded better than I did very disconcerting I mean Skype is good but you know it’s not supposed to be studio mic good yeah anyway lucky I’m here we had forecasts originally for get this folks 75 mile an hour winds then they cut it down to 70 down to 65 and then 55 and today we had 50 mile an hour winds it was ripping out there so I was thinking well will we have internet will we have power will I have the house but it’s turned out ok so we’re here and the wind has indeed this evening let up thank goodness the desert can rage believe me alright so the wind didn’t get me and what almost did though Saturday was [Music] I was standing in the living room and I felt something on the back of my neck moving and I reached back and slapped it hard and I came away with a handful of goo and this thing and fell on the floor that looked like to me the Godzilla of spiders wasn’t probably a baby tarantulas my best guess because it was hairy anyway I slapped it killed it but not before it nailed me three in three places one main one and two little ones it nailed me but good and you know I thought this is it when you get it in the back of the neck like this now he the spider either crawled on me at some point and got to my neck or fell on me I thought from the ceiling either way the matter I thought I was toast and I did a little Drummond staggered around the house for a while I really actually did think I was toast I thought well if it’s poison it’s here in my neck it’s right next to the brain and it’s gonna be fast so I didn’t I didn’t go to the hospital the hospital came to me the fire department came with medics they checked me out wrote a long report and they need all these numbers you know social security numbers and on and on and on anyway bottom line is I’m okay the spider they had me saved the spider in a little jar with some bread to keep it in good shape so that if I did suddenly fall over I’d be able to take my my aggressor with me to the hospital and they could look at him and tell me what he is pretty good others picture on the website by the way of the spider or actually only what’s left of the spider the majority of him was goo so if big actor right the wall over my hand go over the back of my neck the side of the back of my neck and there’s a picture up there of my neck tooth where he bit me so I continue to be here by the grace of sorry mouth Matthew uh God by the grace of God now our ghost picture contest it’s over but it’s not over judging wise I want you all to go to art Bell calm and we’ve got some tragically bad ghost pictures and we’ve got some real winners I mean some really really good ghost breaths so you be the judge the winner you know gets a radio and a one-year subscription to Sirius XM so go up there and judge you are the ones that are going to pick the winner it’s that simple really you’re gonna pick the winner not me not not the ghost master you so you need to go up there and give kudos and points to the good ghost photographs okay kind of leap through them and those stories by the way and we’ll announce the winner of the ghost photograph contest on spooky matter on Thursday coming right up if you have a ghost story there is still time to get it in send me a simple summary of your ghost story and include a phone number at the bottom and perhaps we will call you that’s right we may call you all right things to see on the website tonight oh heavens I have a video for you that I’m telling you it was covered by a local Pueblo Colorado TV station this ladies and gentlemen is a and I don’t want to give it all the way here as all I’ll say it’s about a woman who got caught in a flood you know they had a lot of floods there and she’s in her car as it sinks but there is an ending to this story that will blow you away I’m serious it’s that good so you need to go up to the website and then leaf through you know at the front there you’ll see the picture of the oil rig then you’ve got a little arrows and you can sort of or just wait and it’ll click through when you get to the one of Webb below Colorado oh my you need to see that and and see it to the very end all right don’t stop halfway through or stop once you see who rescued because the punchline which will send chills down your spine I mean this probably gets near the level of a miracle all right it’s all in art Belle calm also I sent Keith though I don’t know that he’s put it up yet at the Dome of the rock UFO you remember that somebody sent for synced hammers in of that UFO and of course as I mentioned the the oil platform other reasons to go to art fell calm well the wormhole for one where you can send me a message just find the wormhole and send me a message at bulla though in in Arizona wants back out again here in Nevada right in front of me an Oklahoma school teacher says she’s seen heavens pearly gates and lived to tell the tale crystal McVeigh is near-death experience brought her face to face with a god that she’s spent a lifetime doubting and the Altus Oklahoma woman says the only reason that she’s even alive is so she can tell others now about ten to twenty percent of people who go into cardiac arrest or clinical death have lucid memories of their brush with death she remembers she claims she talked to God for pancreatitis in 2009 when an unexpected reaction to pain medication caused her to stop breathing that’s it on the way to room temperature as Russia would say but she had this amazing experience and this is a really really big topic that I want to talk to you about I want to have a serious discussion about it no pun intended so we’re gonna be looking for people who have had well death and an experience that they would be willing to relate and then life again it is an intensely interesting subject for me as you know as I hear the footsteps on 68 years old now so I can hear footsteps in the distance very interesting topic so if you’ve had something like that email me art Bell that art bell calm looking very briefly at the news we were all hoping that immigration reform would happen this year doesn’t look so good now they’re just not going to agree on anything and if anything’s broken I’ll tell you the immigration system is I know personal experience is really broken in fact here’s how broken it is if you send people work to the Immigration and Naturalization Service and if that paperwork is lost I even if you have a receipt showing that they received it stamped it it doesn’t matter it’s your fault not their fault it’s your vault even if you can prove they received it signed for it it’s your fault and that’s only an example of what it’s like it needs overhaul so let’s hope they get to it with website woes ongoing the administration Monday granted a six-week extension that will be until March 31st forum there Ekans to sign up for their shiny new healthcare coverage and pay whatever they’re gonna have to pay maybe the administration thought people out here were still using dial-up something I don’t know the governors of Pacific Coastal US states that it be California Oregon Washington I guess in a Canadian province to boot are all going to be begin coordinating policies that place a price on greenhouse pollution no green greenhouse gas pollution and mandating the use of cleaner burning fuels or else so all of that’s going on don’t forget come Thursday spooky matter begins no guests I never ever have guests on that Joe spooky matter will be ghost stories only and while I thought there’s no way the people of that other program could step lower than the things that have already happened now I’ve heard they’re poaching our ghost I have such a good idea for you you need the CC FM transmitter to why it is so cool you simply plug your computer into the CC radio of the CC rate the you can do that by the way with the radio into the FM transmitter to and it will cheerfully then transmit my show to any FM radio in the house now how cool is that you set your own frequency you know anywhere in the FM band where you find no other station because you’re gonna have your own station so it’s pretty cool stuff it’ll really work for you and a lot of people who listen to me are doing it it comes with an AC adapter so you can plug it in or you can put a couple of 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Jason Martel has been one of the leading researchers and lecturers specializing in ancient advanced technologies mister Martel’s research has been featured worldwide on numerous TV networks Discovery Channel History Channel Channel sci-fi channel BBC and others today mr. Martel is working on his next scientific recreation of ancient technology based on data obtained from the Sumerian conformed cylinder seals from 3000 BC is also planning several groundbreaking international research expeditions the expedition’s focus on gaining access to ancient Sumerian artifacts and other archaeological relics not currently accessible to the public in other words secret stuff in addition to his research mr. Martel is founder of WWE Mediacom how’s that for a name ee oo why a who you idiot um a leading mobile technology company here is mr. Jason Martel Jason welcome to Dark Matter hey art thank you so much for having me on your show you’re most welcome I really am looking forward to this I I want to qualify the beginning of the show here Jason by saying I’m kind of a skeptic when it comes to this sort of thing however I am ready to for you to try and convince me because I would love to believe it is so well I know you’re a seasoned pro in these topics so it’s kind of an honor for me to just have these conversations directly with you and see how you respond okay good um so what we’re talking about here is man or something before man in other words something so old that it rose up as a civilization of sorts and became extinct before we ever arrived on the planet you know human beings is that is that beareth yes no that’s that’s pretty much right on the head art you know diving into that a little deeper basically you know when I first started to look into these topics I was 21 I’m now 39 and I started to be very interested in realizing that most of the ancient cultures that were aware of the infamous ones the Egyptians and Mayans and India and such they’re all referencing a lost culture now we only talk about it as Atlantis or lumeria buttons science has actually been turning the tables in the last 15 years in that topics like Atlantis or these lost civilizations are really starting to come back into the scientific focus to find cultures that existed beyond what we know of today as Sumer ancient Egypt which we put that date at around 3800 BC is when the civilizations that we know of today kind of sprung up out of the Stone Age all right is there truly enough I’m in the evolution of the earth itself I’m talking about the you’re themself for life to have actually started evolved here on earth or was it life do you think sent here perhaps already whole and completes well let me give you a little bit of background on how I got interested in these topics just for your audience and for you as well and kind of answered that question you know when I was in college as I mentioned someone had just kind of mentioned to me now I had no interest in Antient Antient Aliens History Channel or anything I was a waiter and I was a surfer and just a normal college student but then someone just kind of mentioned to me that there was possibly pyramids and a face on Mars and that NASA taking these photos and I was very skeptical and was like you know I mean why would NASA hide something like that it turns out art that I was going to school in San Diego and Malin space science systems was two blocks away from me so as I started to listen to your show and Richard Hoagland and other people as a young Lane and college student I became very interested in are there actually artificial structures on Mars so I contacted dr. Mike Malin directly dr. Mike Malin is the principal scientist in charge to the last 30 years of the counters that we place on all our orbiters that’s right I haven’t spoken to him a number of times yes yes and so as a college dude you know I reached out to dr. malen and said listen is there any possibility that these structures on Mars are artificial and he said well no these are all natural you know sand and wind eroded objects nothing intelligent to see here that kind of made my eyebrows raised a little higher right so what I started to do is just really take my focus off of Mars because this is on another planet when I realize they’re structures here all over the earth that we can’t explain and that’s kind of led me on the path of what we’re going to talk about tonight alright um may I stop you enough to ask if you have reviewed the work of Richard C Hoagland of course I have you know but the monuments of Mars I think two editions Adam sign one went to his birthday party in Del Mar many years back I think the first time met him was at a book signing of yours which was an infinitive California again well over 10 years ago I remember all right well you know I have been a skeptic with Richard as well although the last time he was on the program here on Dark Matter he did hit me Jason was something that I found he called it number nine I don’t suppose you’ve seen number nine have you know it’s a artifact on Mars Jason and the damn thing has a pipe sticking out of it I mean you you might call it a rock even though there’s other aspects of it that are just startling but it has a perfectly round pipe sticking out of it and there’s no way there’s no way Jason that this is a neutral object simple simple as that you know that one got me so if you have an opportunity to view what’s called number nine it’s probably still up on my website take a look at that and let me know what you think I’ll definitely check it out that says okay he’s always been infamous for finding artifacts and and you know things that I guess we’re really never going to know until we send a manned mission but I definitely was very intrigued initially by the cydonia complex the geometry and the math being displayed there which really made me focus on a lot of these ancient cultures and raise the question for me where do we really come from well you know I always am not always kind of poo-pooed the phase on Mars right yes they didn’t you know I even referred to in my lectures sometimes when I show a chronological time range from 76 until I think 2009 of various images and one of them I to this day still call the cat box image hmm yeah but here’s the other thing I was going to point out Jason even though they polluted I noticed they spent a disproportionate amount of time going back to Cydonia so while they publicly boo-booed it they kept going back now that’s got to mean something right well I think you and I and many of your listeners are on the belief that there is a public space program and that’s publicly reported you know there’s also a non public space program which is a little more hard to track and put our hands around but I’ve leaned less on the cover-up at NASA simply because I realized that there’s a political backup in that some Engineer has been working at NASA for 19 years making some little arm that’s going to be on the rover and this little arm is going to stick into the dirt and look for some amino acids but there’s there’s no like rabbit catcher or Martian catcher or something’s going to actually identify life we don’t have any instruments actually deployed on any of our Rovers that are going to you know scientifically confirm life we’re only looking for signs of life so we’re not quite there yet but if anyone does pay attention it has been very educating for me just as a civilian to see that you know what they release from the surface of Mars there there is what appear to be vegetation and questionable objects as we were talking about so it does I think raise a little bit of curiosity alright let me pose this to you there are things there that really do raise your eyebrows now is it possible that NASA is well aware that there are artifacts on Mars from somebody or something that was there earlier and they’re releasing these photographs and when somebody finally goes oh my god that’s absolutely not some natural formation that’s artificial and when they finally do that NASA can say you know that’s kind of what we’ve been suspecting too and we’ve been right up front with you because we’ve released all the photographs up to you right well you know this kind of leads to what we’re going to talk about with some of the geometry and megalithic monuments here on earth I think the answer that art is if we ever do send people back to the moon publicly or to Mars what we need to do are look at some of these monuments and some of the alignments astronomically that take place because here on earth there are monuments built all over the world on every continent that are specifically aligned to star constellations and these these repeat these alignments repeat so it’s very possible that some of these other structures and geometrical diagrams are probably on the Moon and Mars as well and will collaborate further with what we have here on earth okay um all right let’s come back to Earth in the theory of panspermia what is that right so you know there’s a scientific term called panspermia which basically says that in order for evolution here on earth to actually have taken place in the 4.7 billion years that you know it’s been an earth there’s there’s just not enough time frame the analogy is you know if a tornado went through a junkyard and assembled a 747 that’s the likelihood that all the elements would be you know Slone together in this primordial soup hit by lightning so panspermia is just a theory and there’s even a modified one that says direct panspermia which means life arrives whole and complete here direct panspermia would simply be that someone sent life here home and complete which I kind of like but that is a scientific term and it does at least step into the doorway of explaining evolution here on earth at a life at a life system level but when we get to the human being topic I think there’s a much more interesting discussion around what isn’t a Darwinian evolution from something’s ever simplistic coming more complex we seem to be here on earth in a repeating cycle which I’m going to call the great year and many ancient cultures seem to be aware of a cyclical nature of something that repeats you’re on earth on a very large scale of time and that’s why I think a lot of these monuments and things that we have are basically part of a much larger calendar system that the ancients were using all right well the way you pronounce it suggests to me I didn’t realize it was a pen spermy so that would suggest the Genesis I suppose right yes yes uh-huh okay so what is your theory was life in what way was life seeded on earth what’s your best guess well my best guess you know really is that we seem to be in some type of a large cycle that is creating life here on earth to evolve to a certain state and then drop out of this evolutionary state and kind of forget everything so you know when we speak of life in general that’s kind of a broader topic that I’ll bypass for tonight and go right to the human evolution if you don’t mind and you know I this is a really interesting topic are because this is what led me to my researches I wanted to figure out where do we come from who is the oldest culture that is led up to us and that led me into the Sumerian culture and planet acts and the Anunnaki which is a good topic for us to touch on but you know from a higher level still I started to realize that there seems to be a larger cycle of time that all the ancients were aware of and we know of it we just don’t understand it we hear things called the Golden Age or the Dark Ages or why there’s the division of the heavens into twelve parts into these dials symbols well it seems that the ancients were aware of some knowledge and used a system of time based on astronomical movements which is just now starting to come into our comprehension in modern times hmm all right you’re you’re suggesting I believe that Darwinian evolution is flawed because you say they will never find the missing link how do you know that right well Darwinian evolution is I think this this view that everything simple is going to become ever more complex so if we go further and further back into our History Channel we should pretty much just find more simple cultures and tribes and into the future we’re just going to become super advanced when I’m seeing is actually that’s not the case it seems that there is a cycle here on earth that is repeating and it’s a large cycle that lasts around 24,000 years now you know a lot of the ancient cultures made reference to the fact that there is this cycle the mayans got a lot of publicity recently because they talked about a calendar system that was so accurate and their calendar came to an ending point in 2012 what wasn’t actually an ending point it was just an ending point in one of their calendars so it’s just very interesting art that we can talk about some of the specifics tonight in that many different ancient cultures were aware of this large cycle of time and built monuments that align to specific star constellations that are kind of like markers in space as to where we are in this large cycle of time okay I’m still missed it somehow you’re saying that we will never find the missing link that’s I really want the answer to that why will we never find missing link I don’t think that will not ever find the missing link I just don’t think that right now we’re ready to accept what it is and in my opinion it has to be some type of genetic intervention whether that be from an alien civilization or some lost culture that we you know we’re not on the record of understanding now but it appears that if we look at the anthropological bone record of Mestral op13 and the and Rizal and you know comparing this bone to that bone when we get to us and compare us to the closest relation of a Neanderthal there’s there’s a huge gap between them and us so somehow magically there was some type of a genetic intervention that took the hominoid that was maybe evolving here naturally and kind of made him into us and I say that just from a very high level of you know if you look at a basic human and you put them naked in the jungle and had them run around their skin would get you know cut by branches they’d get sunburned you know if you look at an ape and how strong they are compared to us and all the body hair that protects them we are just extremely different at many levels when we look at this Darwinian evolution of bones and such alright that’s fascinating I do have a question though is it possible Jason that if there was a and by the way I believe it could be true there was some genetic modification achieved by a power that we don’t understand if that occurred and I’m not a scientist is it possible that a geneticist could uncover evidence that that occurred I think so and as we you know further decode the human genome I I know that there’s already lots of what they call junk DNA and things that that’s right in our DNA that they’re just kind of scratching their head going wool you know I guess it does something but we don’t really know um good friend of mine Lloyd Pye who I’m sure you’re also familiar with I know how it well yeah and and I hope he’s doing doing better he’s you know had some bouts with health recently but he’s a trooper and you know he really did a lot of work around the genetics and I wrote a book called everything you know is wrong where he kind of gets deep into the genetic side of looking at the various elements of our gene code and breaking down where these anomalies exist and and why they shouldn’t called out I’m not sure that finding it would be a problem if a geneticist did find it one could still say look that’s where God’s hand touched the human or created the human if you will or one could suggest that a race far far ahead of ours stepped in and did the deed yes well I I guess only time will tell as we you know our science is advanced more so that we can use you know various quantum computing here in the future I guess and do things where we can get a much more whole and complete view of our genetic code and if we ever do get to interact with other you know that publicly if we ever get to interact with other life forms of intelligence then there might be very interesting DNA samples from them that we can compare but right now right it’s it’s all kind of a door shuts there aren’t any Antient Aliens no one’s willing to cross that line scientifically so that’s why our you know I spent my time and you know the last decade or so really looking at the ancient evidence all the modern things with Antient Aliens and and and you know even our genetics and science and stuff it’s very interesting but what we do have is just a wealth of information from all these ancient cultures and the things that they went to great lengths to communicate to us which we now think of mainly as mythology really deserve another eye in looking at that evidence and saying well all these things that have happened in the past that we think our mythology is our Sciences kind of start to merge more with what’s possible in the science fiction realm I think we can see that some of the stuff in the past starts to raise people’s eyebrows a little bit more and pay attention let me look at you know various structures and understand that the architecture and building skills that went into some of these monuments is very intriguing okay all right did you see the series after man I think it was called where they showed a hundred years after man was gone from the planet thousand million don’t think I mean too bad because it showed what would happen to for example American architecture our buildings everything that is man who would virtually disappear given enough years and that sort of fits into what we’re going to be talking about yeah and that that makes sense and you know we get left with just a random piece of an artifact or tablets or texts you know or tails and so art for me I some of these ancient cultures it’s really interesting to see how they’ve played out scenarios in even more recent times that people can relate to that allows us to look further back in the past and let me give you an example I know you’ve heard the term cargo cult so right I have yeah and so for your audience you know in like World War 1 World War 2 when we first started flying US troops over Australia and Africa and we landed in certain rural areas where you know a tribesman had never seen a white man or they’d never seen a biplane and technology you know soldier gets out lights up a cigarette and holds out a voice recorder and records the Aboriginal voice and plays it back to them yeah bridge halls are freaking out they’re like wow like a god you know and this ship that he came in what is this so even as recently as World War one in World War two we see it playing out that when the soldiers left and I should also mention every now and then the soldier camps would get dropped shipments like a plane the cargo plane flies over and just drops a bag of goods sometimes that bag goods would land in the middle of a tribe instead of the camp and they crack it open and find all these things falling from the sky and they do like oh you know so when the soldiers left a lot of coke bottles for example exactly I mean let me tell you just a very brief story I went up in communist China with Bob Ryan and his wife and this was years and years ago just after it kind of opened and we went into some small villages and Bob drains wife is a blonde and I’m telling you J’son people came out of their homes in in these little towns just stood and stared in almost disbelief you know they haven’t seen Westerners and a westerner with blond hair that’s big-time so it’s kind of like that in I mean they were so isolated that they were just amazed to see it she was mercy burn yeah go ahead just wanted to squeeze out that analogy before I get it was simply that the cargo cult is that you know when the soldiers left the aboriginal started to scrape out runways maids draw models of aircraft and started to kind of worship these as items hoping to entice the soldiers to come back and so are you referring now to the the runways down Andrew that kind of thing well not really I mean that’s that’s a different set of circumstances but just as general the idea of a cargo called even in recent times we see how how greatly the sex these aboriginals so when we look back into the well into the past places like Bolivia and Peru and South America we see these very clear attempts to communicate whatever must have been in the sky at that time and the paradox there is that none of the civilizations that were human at that time had hot-air balloons or gliders or any type of flight yet they were clearly communicating to people in the sky clearly I mean you sound pretty sure about that well you know when we look in for instance Peru you know the Nazca lines are since we bring that up we have that wonderful figure of el astronauto carved into a mountainside and he’s kind of you know they’re waving hi to anybody that would see him and any of those structures in Peru like the runways or of what really intrigued me are actually in the foothills some of the mountains right in that range in Bolivia we find very large geometric patterns and you can’t see any of these you can’t see el astronauto or any of the Nazca figurines as most people know unless you’re in the sky and some type of a conveyance that allows you to be above the surface of the ground yes so you know I just for me art I thought it was really interesting that you know there are various descriptions and even more recent times of how ancient people handle this but it starts to get really interesting and this kind of ties in to what you just said with your Bob cranes wife what’s also very interesting and studying a lot of these South American cultures these are all mostly dark haired people dark skinned but their gods are usually tall pale blond people KooKoo common and quetzel coda and various other South American gods are either depicted with long red hair or white hair and they usually are pale and skinned now this is a very interesting paradox when all these is it is because we we generally we as humans model our gods after you know I think you’re gonna suggest what they thought were gods mm-hmm it’s not long how long ago are we talking about right now if we went back to the time when these gods were being created or the image of these gods how long ago was that we’re roughly talking around 2500 BC or pretty much 4000 years ago okay and what we see across the board art is you know various cultures from Egyptian to Mesopotamian Mayan they all have what are what are appears to be you know very articulate and well positioned monuments that create these alignments and some of these monuments are actually they dedicated towards reuniting or some ceremony around their God in Chichen Itza and South America on a specific day when the Sun hits the side of the pyramid it makes this light and shadow effect of a serpent coming down the steps and you know to build a pyramid at a specific angle so that an astronomical shadow will create an effect that repeats every year that’s pretty good and these it is indeed pretty good a hold hold tight a moment Jason up first Jason welcome back Thank You art all right how frequently with the kind of thing that you’re talking about you run smack into the Bible well I was raised as a Christian so you know that really was one of the first things that I think at a very young age I you know would be in church and I’d look up someone next to me and they’re raising their hands and really feeling it and I didn’t understand why I couldn’t get in touch with a higher power so for me I started from that angle but really I have such a great respect for all the world religions because you know I now see kind of a unification in all the ancient views kind of being very similar that something happened in our past very clearly where there was a time when there were giants upon the earth whether that means great and stature or actually physical giants but there seems to have been a time when most ancient cultures interacted with their living gods where we’ve lost that connection well you know we’re talking about that missing link in that moment when whatever was here was touched magically in some way or technologically in some way and so began the human well you know if that touch were to be said to be gods I don’t think that’d be a problem if that touch we’re said to be alien I think there’d be a big problem have you thought that over I have and it might be a good time for us to talk about the oldest civilization that we have record on earth the Sumerian civilization because that’s really where one of the jumping points for me as far as curiosity again coming from a Christian background in studying the Sumerian culture which is today’s southern Iraq and called Mesopotamia Babylon originally Sumer and what we have out of Sumer are a collection of cuneiform scripts which is a written language as well as pictograms in the form of cylinder seals and various tablets and for me art it became very clear when the archaeological evidence started to support stories in the Bible but as fact so some of the things like the flood tablet we have in in the British Museum on display there’s a tablet called the flood tablet and it’s written in a in a an ancient Arcadian Akkadian text they’ve actually found a few other various versions but essentially what we have here is a story of the Great Flood recorded in stone predating the Hebrew or the kings James Version of this tale and it’s thousands of years before these known texts that we have today I guess it would be too much or difficult for you to actually lay out what is in that tablet and the way they described it because I’d be very curious are you able to do that I can to a certain degree yeah essentially what we have is you know in the Bible we have a very truncated version of a story the last seven days and God creating the heavens and the earth but in the Sumerian version there are actually seven tablets of creation and these tablets very specifically explain how we come into being and it’s a process basically that is explained by I’m sorry I I thought it was a flood we’re gonna talk about the flood tablet I’m sorry yeah got carried away there just jump right in another topic knowing the flood the flood tablet on display in the British Museum is again one of those that is part of a much larger set of texts it’s called actually the innumerous there was about 11 tablets so this one specific tablet in that story explains the flood and what’s interesting about the Sumerian version he is it very specifically says why there was a great flood it cites that there is a much larger body and now let me put a little preface on this too there’s only been a handful of scholars that actually read Sumerian cuneiform script this ancient language and most of the translations that I’m going to reference in our discussion tonight are translated through zecharia sitchin now mainstream science will look at Zacharias fictions descriptions and will argue over a certain word or a phrase and the meaning of that word or that specific phrase however no one in the astra no one in the archaeological community is able to compile a well-rounded woven story interlinking all of the information from these tablets and what I’m searching for here is does it describe things like when the flood came how much of the earth the flood covered how long it lasted in other words does it lay it out no no it doesn’t and if it does I unfortunately am NOT that close to it to be able to answer it that way but what I can do is again just validate the fact that this tale isn’t just a biblical tale we have an actual artifact predating the paper version of our Bible essentially telling the same thing why that’s important art is there other tablets there are other pieces of information touch on other highly significant biblical events like Adam and Eve or the creation of our actual earth and so putting all of that into a pot and stirring it together we have very interesting information that come out of some of the most ancient cultures that we have where we are now almost starting to scientifically confirm a lot of these biblical pieces that we thought were just allegory myths for example Adam and Eve you’re saying it confirms Adam and Eve well you know confirm is again it’s it’s a hypothesis and there’s evidence there to support it I’m using your word yeah yeah when we look at the evidence and things that we’ve pulled out of the Sumerian descriptions of their tales we have very clear descriptions of them creating us in their image and after their likeness just like the Bible says but in some of these Sumerian texts it’s a lot more elongated there is a text specifically talking about how the Adam was created and it wasn’t Adam Azzam that’s your name and you be Adam correct the word Adam ooh is a plural in Hebrew for worker so the Sumerian text actually explained that one of these gods that came here they called them Anunnaki and that’s a term used throughout the Sumerian text to refer to their gods Anunnaki that just simply means those who from heaven come to earth one of their text explains how a very specific Anunnaki she was a chief medical officer her name was min Hassad and she actually created the first working atom there were two or three versions that didn’t function where the arm four and one didn’t work another the kidney didn’t function and they actually have Sydal under sealed descriptions little pictograms little scenes that go along with these texts and you see her holding up a small being and she’s saying I’ve done it in the background what appeared to be tubes and Voss’s on a shelf could this be a primitive representation of an in vitro fertilization I don’t know was there a pictorial of her yes there’s only what what did she look like well we we look like them they look like us I mean essentially okay these were done you know obviously I’m not looking at them I mean basically in stick form or it had to be a little better than that because you’re describing it as a her right so what they did was the the person who could create these drawings was called a scribe and he used something called a stylus which looks like an oversized screwdriver and they would twist it turn it to make the text in wet clay and accompanying that so we still don’t know how they did this but they would take a piece of wet clay and carve in Reverse these intricate little figurines and pictures so they’re not just stick figures there are you know detailed figures and art but they would carve it in Reverse sorry art they would carve it in reverse and then when you pressed it into another piece of wet clay you would leave the positive imprint so it was very fascinating that they were able to even do that such as how were you able to or how was anybody able to discern it was a female well the text explained that she is a female and when you look at her in the picture she’s actually got a ponytail and her face features are more feminine okay all right and she created the Adam which was turned out to be small but are we talking about a baby right so there’s a the first working model and I’m sure it was you know a child and you know it’s again when we look at this as just a mythological tale it’s pretty darn accurate considering how we look at you know again test-tube fertilization or in vitro fertilization I’m with you that happened no no how did bees get created well you know that part gets a little bit more convoluted into to the genetic side which I’d probably not do any good to speak at it from my angle other than the understanding there was this whole rib thing you know right right well that’s what to say other than the understanding of the biblical term but but you know I think just from a core concept we have many of these stories that come out of ancient Sumer where it’s you know it’s a really interesting piece of the puzzle and some of it again when we try and piece it together with science they’re their creation myth goes into a very detailed explanation as to how our earth was even created and pretty much fits with our current cosmology if we if we to understand that the earth now is kind of the continents are all moved into a certain position but at some point they were one large landmass called Pangaea right and you know that and that does make sense because if you try it the earth you know the continents they fit together exactly and the Sumerians give a very interesting tale of explaining that our primitive earth billions of years ago they say before I had finished becoming a solid mass it had this interaction with what they called Nibiru it was a kind of like a rogue star that somehow got attracted to our solar system and there was this collision between our primitive earth and one of the moons of this of this star this planet that came into our solar system and this alright job well you’re referring to this Planet X right I am I am okay and you’re saying that it was not Planet X that collided with or you even disturbed us by being close but it was one of the moons of Planet X that collided with earth that’s correct yes yes the Sumerians don’t use the term Planet X they used the term Nibiru and we we against these similarities in this cosmological story from the Sumerians where when this collision took place we had half of our earth get strewn out into what we now called the asteroid belt the Bible calls it the hammered out bracelet and and then the earth that we know it goes into its current position in its new orbit now after it’s a large calamity like that where half the planet is strewed out into the asteroid belt if you think about it that leaves us with just half a planet literally a Pangaea but all the time we’ve now moved into the positions like the skin of an apple the continents have moved to where they are so there’s little pieces like that art where the Sumerian version of many of the stories of our creation or of our cosmology our science is kind of catching up and going huh the Sumerians actually knew infer nation that our sciences are just now starting to confirm so what you’re suggesting there’s two ways to look at this one is the biblical and the other is something even older that you’ve been talking about and you’re suggesting that they they do coincide but at some point you’re going to have to sort of make a intellectual mental choice about well the Bible hmm this is one way to explain it but over here we have this other thing that it happened and it’s the real thing that happened right and so that’s why there’s this wonderful context from all the other cultures around the world not just our ark one judeo-christian view or the you know Mesopotamian view that’s now extracted into our Christian view there are all these other collaborating cultures that have a similar line of evidence in that the knowledge that they had it seems to be so complex that when we look at most of these ancient cultures like Egyptians Mayans and Sumer they were right out of the Stone Age right at the time when it seems to have been that they were you know just starting there at the most advanced part of their civilization and then they kind of gradually went downhill so it’s it’s a hard thing for us to try and figure out like why are these these gaps and knowledge it seems like many of the ancient cultures knew a bunch of information and ways to build monuments that we can’t today and then we kind of forgot it all when we went into the dark ages Jason you do realize that not all that long ago they would have strapped you to a couple of hunks of wood with kindling underneath and they would have burned you a live as Locke you’re right and that’s that’s part of us coming out of the Dark Ages where we’ve been in this you know we went into this realm where we kind of lose all this information but as we go further back art we look at these monuments and various sites and we see alignments and thing so that point to a much earlier date than Sumer or Egypt and we don’t know where they come from and I can give you some examples and this one’s more small Park when you say much older give me an idea of how much older 10,500 BC and an older maybe between 10,500 BC – let’s say 50,000 BC so much further into our past we’ve just now started to uncover sites thankfully due to the work of a you know show on the History Channel Channel that’s now in its sixth season I’m grateful to be a part of it ancient Antient Aliens they have been finding and researching sites that really were not even on the radar sites like gobekli tepe and Turkey mm-hmm all right now what is the best evidence that you would cite from these programs from that research of something that old I get that question a lot I love it and you know I think I think for me the answer is as vitrification you have to some people might have to google that it is a good term but vitrification means the heating of a stone until it becomes a molten state and so what we see art is you know at Machu Picchu in Teotihuacan and puma punku and all these sites where the stones are perfectly fit together or carved out with these intricate patterns like putty there’s no way to explain how they did that other than they were heating the stone some of these D right granite they would heat this stone somehow to a molten State then you can slice it in half stick it together drill holes through it no problem and then it hardens back into a stone but we have no answer to explain what tools or how they were able to make granite into a molten state well it’s interesting you would mention that because there are those who suggest the tolerances in the pyramids in Egypt are absolutely impossible they could not have achieved that then unless they were actually melting stone and and pouring it which explains how they could have done it because those you know those rocks are way too big and too heavy for anybody to have moved back then that’s a good point there they’re almost like large cement blocks that came out of a mill or something hmm and now Egypt is a really great example because you’re familiar with this topic too now the the alignments that we see at Giza are part of this marker system there’s a crypt in dendara Egypt where on one of the walls that looks like some of the Egyptians are holding up large light bulbs I recently recreated a version of this bulb and actually made it function for the History Channel Channel but in that same area of dendara there is also a very large relief of an astronomical zodiac and what a lot of people don’t understand is that again these monuments are built to some type of large marker Giza is an excellent example through the work of grotto Robert Bauval we learned about a decade ago that the three Pyramids of Giza are a terrestrial map of Orion right that’s right we can use star charting and constellation software redshift and various other programs so that you can say where the star is going to be above me tonight or where were the stars above me at 10500 BC smooth turns out in 10500 BC Giza is perfectly aligned to Ryan Orion the three stars of Orion and the Sphinx is looking directly into the constellation of Leo so I don’t know how can I for a second take you back to the light bulbs yeah okay sure you you believe that what’s inscribed in stone is that correct yes yes is a preacher of that time holding up what you represent is a light light bulb Oh creature I mean you know it’s a human but yes well I’m not sure what point of the creation or evolution we’re talking about but okay uh human holding up a light bulb and that would have been ten thousand plus years I’m sorry well no forgive me so the artifacts in Egypt are just when we go to one of the crypts and end era these are wall reliefs that were done by the Egyptians probably in let’s say 3000 BC on a Sun yes line what but what it shows is two things I mentioned the first one is why I was interested in Derek stand there in the first place there are wall reliefs that show he what appeared to be large light bulbs plugged into a device Egyptologists say that that’s a lotus flower and the bulb what looks like a bulb is actually just the aroma coming out of the flower I mean it’s not a very good explanation from the from the scientific community but really I mean you said you created a light bulb as a demonstration yes I did I did do making light bulb I mean well here’s what I did so I I hired a person who is an expert in creating lighting light various like custom bulbs and I had him create a filament based bulb that’s a plasma bulb so just like we’ve heard of swamp gas it’s possible that gases coming out of just natural occurrence are ignited by a small heat source and they create phosphorescence right so it’s very possible that the Egyptians could access a swamp or some methane gas and give it a small source of energy which is another thing I’m talking about and and create phosphorescence so all I did was create a very light plasma bulb with four volts introduced to it creates a light a phosphorescent glow fascinating okay thank out to Tom that off to top that off the powering of that device I created an ancient Baghdad battery which I’ve also had tested for discovery challenge for History Channel Channel explain a bag dead battery yes they found about a dozen of these in ancient I in southern Iraq that date back to times of Sumer and such 2500 3000 BC and essentially it’s a clay pot about six inches tall with a copper lining and an iron rod down the center and that’s scientifically known for sure that it creates an electric charge introduce any weak acidic acid yeah and probably four volts would have been achievable and so that’s what you used exactly and I you know show those sometimes when I give a lecture I connect the battery to the bulb and and and then you know in display that so those are interesting pieces of artifacts and things that we can demonstrate but you know as I was mentioning the the astronomical alignments and some of these things so in dendera they also have this a dial relief that shows all of the constellations you know above Giza but they show a view of the sky that’s thousands of years earlier than 2500 BC so it almost seems like the Egyptian culture at 2500 BC was well aware of this large cycle of time and referenced that thousands of years before they were there they were in a much better state but closer to the Golden Age and so they recorded this by showing the positions of the stars as to what they would have been let’s say at 10,500 BC not cherry interesting that they would make such references all right I want to talk a little more about Planet X Jason and I had the opportunity years ago to this is when Zahi Hawass was in charge and for all the trouble in egypt way before to to go and I was lucky they knew who I was when it was my chance to get to the Great Pyramid I actually went to the top I got to lie in the sarcophagus and I don’t want to go woohoo on you here but and it may have been I don’t know the climb to the top it was humid it was hot inside the pyramid but lions Rufus I definitely felt something that you know kind of hard to describe I felt something there have been many thoughts about what the Great Pyramid was or his me any thoughts yourself on what what that was intended to do well you know there’s lots of theories out there art I am I couldn’t stick to just one but I do like to talk about the various theories I’ve always resonated with Chris Dunn and his idea that it’s a power plant some kinds it seems that around the world they are there are monuments placed at geodetic points they’re somehow connected maybe at one point there was some type of world energy grid and these monuments don’t hang skis and various other sites tapped into this energy or you know it could be something more basic utilizing elements I heard an interesting theory around the water and the way the Nile and the the tide recedes and such that there are channels and ducts that come up under the Sphinx and under the pyramid and just just the pressure of this water filling these canals and pressing up against the pyramid actually creates energy and static charge that they were somehow maybe utilizing it doesn’t surprise me that if you were sitting in the King’s Chamber sarcophagus or the Queen’s Chamber that you might actually feel some type of resonance or an energy well I I don’t know if it was self induced psychological or because of the unusual conditions but I I’ll talk about it some other time but I definitely felt something strong now there are others who feel that the purpose of it and the alignment was to launch one’s soul onto its journey right well and you know we have these very as shafts and things that there’s a shaft in the King’s Chamber and in the Queen’s Chamber that are very specific that point to a Star constellation one of the belt stars of Orion the star system is serious and I’m sure you noticed that when you’re in the King’s Chamber and the Queen’s Chamber if this was a tomb where all the hieroglyphs right all right so it’s like a big empty room so no it is a puzzle I admit that so you take the technological road because it kind of fits what you’re saying and that’s fine and it could certainly well be I don’t know and there’s probably some stuff in there that either they’re covering up to a certain degree or we’re just not getting full access to you know that little square I think it’s like a 1 foot by 1 foot shaft that they said that little robot the opal walk up into and found that more well you know they did they did go behind that door and they detected metal objects and some type of a hidden room but kind of never made it out publicly okay and you you also as Richard you see a connection between the monuments on Mars and those on earth yes well look at the fact that there’s pyramids and a sphinx object you know in Giza and then on Mars there are pyramids and for my own analysis using you know graphics and things to extrapolate data that face has there’s there’s just no way that the cemetery and I and nose head dress winged formation over the head like like a headdress formation there’s too many pieces there to be natural occurrence and it does look kind of lying human-like so yeah I think Richard caught on to that and I give him kudos but I really don’t think we can answers my question I’m sorry Jason somebody just sent a wormhole message to me referring to you asking of Richard C Hoagland zecharia sitchin had a child god I would take that as a compliment but you know well you should you should you should somebody’s gotta research that’s funny sorry it’s all good you know I mean Richard Richard definitely is onto something there and I think we’re really not going to be able to answer these questions until we have an actual frame of reference from the surface of Mars so that just like here on earth these monuments we’re seeing aligned to astronomical points have math built into them so I’m sure that if we ever actually go to Mars some of these pieces are really going to stack up I did your producer was nice enough to send the number-9 image from your site Oh Oh No take a good long look at that what do you think Jason is that weird or what that I mean look carefully do you see the perfectly circular pipe sticking out it’s really I mean you know I don’t see how that couldn’t be some type of a technology a gear or wheel thank you thank you I mean I look at a lot of what Richard sends me and I go sorry Richard rocks but we got to this number nine and I want oh my god yeah yeah it’s a good one I is there any way that nature does that no I don’t think so no it doesn’t and you know you you’re also familiar with the work who should be more prominently noted he’s probably just out of the game but dr. mark Carlotto who was an image expert and looked at a lot of the algorithms and things you know Cydonia people don’t realize that you know there’s just if you do some very basic science on these areas that NASA neglects it really makes you wonder dr. mark Carlotto is is someone who you know it’s very familiar with running image analysis and he would show various examples with Russian satellite telemetry they would run mathematical algorithms on some Russian satellite image and the math would tell you there’s a 98 probability that that’s actually a tank or some troops being you know covered by some shrub or PARP when we run those same algorithms on the surface of Mars Cydonia the face the pyramids they all come out to be way over 90% probability of artificiality but NASA never did any of those types of tests right they just said don’t look here it’s a trick of light and shadow when in fact it wasn’t a trick of light and shadow and Vince DiPietro and Greg Mullen are found other frame grabs where the Sun was in a different reference so well that’s why I said to you earlier isn’t it possible that NASA is laying all this in front of us in plain sight and when from somebody finally says I’ve had it this is not formed by wind or erosion or whatever this is not a natural object when somebody finally says that and really says it loudly NASA will say well you know we’ve been releasing the pictures all along we’re not surprised I guess I would agree with you there I you know I’ve seen in my career being interested in these topics I started out very motivated 15 19 years ago in college and no one would hear it no one would even consider the idea that any of this was logical that is changing now because of all the things that we’re learning that you know go into that pot and get stirred so yeah I think there is a desensitise desensitizing of the public going on and if anyone hears stories like gary mckinnon and others that you know sometimes tiptoe into areas that they’re not supposed to or hack a computer at NASA you know you you do have to take these still with at least some realm of conjecture that it could be true and you know NASA again is a public space agency but from its inception it’s it’s under the Department of Defense you know and anything they find that would be really cool they’re not going to release it mmm NASA paid Brookings 50 grams in 1960 to look into the possible implications of discovering alien life in space and what it would mean to society right yeah and the basic conclusion of Brookings was once well they basically said that the fabric of society the economic complex the religious complex would really be thrown for a loop and it’s better to quarantine this information until there’s an established plan you know a way to essentially what we were just joking about either desensitize the public or you know handle this with the proper quarantine procedures so you think we’re still in the period of quarantine I do and you know as I mentioned when we first started I I usually when I give a lecture or do a talk you know I cite evidence because there are artifacts there are science that are our understandings currently can put into a spectrum of truth with some of these ancient pieces you know artifacts and such but when we get into the more of the current topics it gets a little more slippery and you know difficult to not only put evidence behind it but you know the part of Department of Defense and national security there’s I don’t really have any interest in upsetting the powers that be if you will so there is a fine line and I think to you know looking at some of these topics where I think it’s best to probably just stick to the what we’ve learned in the past to help us see what because I you know could be possibly alright with regard to NASA they have been making noise lately Jason about some big announcement that’s coming up I’ve heard dates for the announcement I’ve heard them saying something amazing is going to be announced and I’m wondering if you think that’s going to be NASA saying we have discovered microbiological life of some sort on Mars I think it’s time yeah I think I think it’s probably time that they do step up and I don’t think they’re going to actually be able to confirm micro you know organisms but they might actually further pinpoint that microorganisms lived in the past or something okay all right something that people could digest without going oh my god everything I thought I loved was wrong right right right yes so you expect such an announcement I don’t know in the next 5 or 10 years or sooner I would sure hope so okay all right all right let’s go back now to the pale the pale gods that were depicted it doesn’t make sense in South America where people of course have darker skin because of the sun in fact that’s true right across the world in Africa or Southeast Asia or wherever you go where there’s lots of Sun you have darker skin on people it’s protection for them now it is odd that they would not make these gods in their own image but rather pails and it doesn’t make sense unless and I’ll let you finish well unless there was let’s call it a some extraterrestrial race that is probably very close to us mainly maybe even related to us in some way or some lost civilization that we just don’t understand that existed on earth but they somehow were influencing all of the cultures around the world so just like the idea of an Atlantis if there was an Atlantean culture they wouldn’t have been technologically advanced on one continent they would have been a global civilization and that’s what we see art is that there’s an evidence by these monuments and the architecture of these monuments around the world that pinpoints a lost race or a lost civilization and here’s an actually even further detail that I’ve just been recently kind of pondering is when we look at some of these ancient sites really ancient even the ones that are just popping up so gobekli tepe in Turkey the moai heads in Rapa Nui Island the figurines in bada Valley Indonesia and he the figurines depicted by the Sumerians all have a similar style of a creature a being that is very slender and their arms are always wrapped at the waist so if we look at the moai heads as an example on Rapa Nui most people might not know that they’re not just heads we’ve actually dug out below the head and there’s a full body just underground of these long slender beings we see these same beings depicted at gobekli tepe and again they all have their hands folded at the waist I think art that what we’re seeing is these oldest these older civilizations are all referencing knowledge from this lost race this lost culture that influenced all the greats that we know up now but beyond them we’ve lost okay Jason wouldn’t you think that if there was this great civilization that was on earth at any time that there would be more yes we’ve got depictions on rocks and things like that but wouldn’t there be somehow preserved examples of some of the technology that you’re talking about well you know as our technology advances we wonder like is a USB Drive or a DVD blu-ray disc going to be worth anything in a thousand years and you know when we look at some of the things that like crystal skulls or some of these rocks that we know a crystal can actually hold data now we’re you know we don’t use it yet in our own like in a computer but I think art that it’s very possible in the future when our technology advances we start to store data so I want I don’t want to say literally in the cloud but you know everything or even a rock it’s capturing the energy vibrations of anything that passes by it and it’s sitting here for thousands of years why can’t we just tap into that rock somehow and extract that data now I know that sounds funny and far-fetched I’m not as funny and not as far-fetched as you would think yeah I I know I think there probably is something to that in fact I think science is even working on the fact that information seems to get stored in particularly things subjective vibration like windows and things like that yes so no it’s not so far-fetched well so I think oh and by the way in my opinion as fast as technology is moving I think that in or 10 years let’s say a blu-ray disc will be off somewhere with beta machines right yeah it’ll just be a basic frisbee and that’s all you’ll need it for that’s right now artsy I do again as I referenced this lost cycle of time I don’t think everything is linear I don’t think it’s going to be where in the future just going to become more and more advanced and and it’ll continue that way there seems to be a cycle here that repeats on earth where we go into the dark ages and then into the golden age and then back into the Dark Ages to the golden age and I say that because we can look at the information being depicted by the ancients where they used this astronomical calendar based on the heavens so the Sumerians we think because they’re you know still the oldest on record were one of the first to divide the heavens into twelve parts and assign in a constellation so today there seems to be a large cycle of time where we go through each one of these dial symbols it lasts about 2,000 years where based on the alignments of where our earth is to the Sun and the star constellation behind that the ancients had a very simple and ingenious way of knowing what age they were in and just so that we understand the context of this right now we’re in the Age of Pisces now the Age of Pisces is the symbol of a fish which is also the symbol of Jesus we’re in the time of Jesus that’s going to end in about a hundred and fifty years when we go into the Age of Aquarius all based on astronomical information so it’s very interesting that the ancients use this large clock to know and here’s how they did it if you went out early in the morning the Sun is rising whatever Star constellation Aquarius cancer leo whatever constellation the Sun is rising against they would know over in the Age of Aquarius where in the Age of Pisces so they went to great lengths are to know exactly where they were in this cycle because all the ancient cultures over 30 of them explained how their this cycle affects us and I want to kind of put it into context so the audience understands there’s three cycles that were aware of as far as the Earth’s movement in the 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about here or will be here shortly and I’ve always kind of gone and I don’t know seems like the astronomers would be letting us know if Planet X was headed our way but that doesn’t mean it isn’t and that doesn’t mean that a rogue planet couldn’t be out there because it would so what’s your best guess about Planet X well I think in this last hour I’m going to try and hit it home for you because I know a lot of people are interested in me be route plan attacks especially what they hear online and in in in this last hour I’m going to kind of talk about the new model which I think explains why there would be a Planet X or it helps put into the context of a Planet X existence but excuse me Jason do you mean you’re only going to be on for another hour because we have two hours of show to go wow that’s great then my dad huh I didn’t know that can you stick around I think I can yes okay all right Planet X so basically you know the Planet X topic is one that’s very interesting because up till now everyone has been assuming that it’s just one son that you know our solar system is comprised of one and Planet X is on this huge elliptical orbit based on the ancient information and so it very rarely comes by our inner solar system however that might not actually be the complete model based on most of the latest science that we’re getting from our telescopes in space most solar systems external solar systems on ours most solar systems are binary they have at least two suns some in an intricate dance up to six or more Suns in this you know unbelievable orbit but there’s strong evidence to suggest we are a binary solar system so that we actually have two suns our second Sun would either be a brown dwarf at this point or is something that we haven’t been able to identify like for instance let’s call it maybe Cirrus could be our second Sun and you know it’s somehow in this intricate dance with us which which is kind of where I’m going to lead into this spinning on the axis before it’s picked up after the break so I realized the Planet X topic is very sensitive to a lot of listeners and hopefully in the next couple hours we can really start to boil down some of the science that I’ve been latching on to and finding very intriguing which further change the variables of a Planet X model there are a number of people I’ve spoken to recently who believe there is another Sun and that it is hidden and we can’t see it because it’s behind our current Sun in some way well are there are over 30 cultures that were aware of this large cycle of time and specifically talked about two suns even the Sumerians have a very interesting tablet view of what appears to be like the Tower of Babel and they’re ascending it and there’s two suns at the top but many cultures were with the idea of us having two suns a lot of them coming out of the ancient Vedic texts and India and such but alright that is you aside for a second of the second Sun although we’ll come back to it but but but Planet X would you regard Planet X as Oh essentially a rogue planet that visits on a very long orbital time like twenty five thousand years something like that right well III think the the orbital pattern that is talked about in some of these ancient Sumerian texts is they give it a 3600 year orbit around our Sun we we look at the sumerian evidence and see that they had a very advanced math system based on two numbers six and ten so the Sumerians had mathematical constructs and diagrams that showed how they were able to divide into very small numbers and very large numbers some of these numbers picked up into the billions so one of the numbers that they used was 360 they were the first ones to designate 360 degrees to a circle now if you just take a string and attach it to a stick stick the dirt stick to put the stick into the dirt and out stretch that string and then walk around you you know you create a circle but they were the first ones to actually designate 360 degrees and they called it a char which meant a complete circle so they gave the reference of Nibiru this planet acts as having a char of 3600 years which meant a complete orbit mm-hmm oh so let’s see 3,600 years so it would come and visit every 3,600 years presumably at roughly the same distance from the earth yes and I did a little mathematical calculation a while ago and around 2003 when this was you know a little bit more hyped on people listening to things on the internet or looking at webcam photos that possibly show a lens flare interpreted it as a second son I did some math that showed you know if our solar system’s been around our earth more importantly for let’s say 4.7 billion years and maybe Roos our orbit is 3,600 years or every 3,600 years it’s potentially coming by earth or the inner part of the solar system if we divide 4.7 billion years by 3,600 we get well over a million times Nibiru has completed an orbit through the inner part of the solar system so it’s probably likely that not every time there’s an orbit you know that it affects us we could be on the complete other side of the Sun when Nibiru comes into the other part of the solar system it might have minimal effects on us well it would change something I mean it would be close to something in the solar system and so there’d be some great change every time I would think and that’s not an earth but some great change right and you know I know that people can point to things the planets heating up in various spots you know Jupiter spot and various things can’t explain you know what maybe RISM impact would be on us but looking at the evidence you know there’s if we look at the spacing between the planets just between Mars and Jupiter is where the asteroid belt is now right between Mars and Jupiter there’s plenty of room for a large planetoid object to be passing through and there’s actually even gaps in the asteroid belt that could be considered planet sized gaps as if something had passed through it and in art I always jokingly made the reference that you know we’re talking about the 12th planet from the Sumerians perspective they called it the 12th planet as well as me beer or Planet X but if we just think of it as the 12th planet passing between Mars and Jupiter I used to make the joke that it’s like mj-12 Mars Jupiter 12th planet is probably nothing but you know maybe who’s been coming through our solar system for millions of at least over a million times and you know I know the current hype today is that people are interested when they hear the historical evidence of how this interaction in the past caused a great flood and how the ancients are tracking this planet but I agree with you in that I remember hale-bopp very clearly and I actually because I mention lived in San Diego and my parents lived in Rancho Santa Fe and something happened a few blocks over from my house yes but you know the amateur community of astronomers has then been very astute at always pointing out things like shoemaker-levy 9 or hale-bopp well before the professional community and then it gets escalated to the actual science science level so there is a Planet X we’re talking something four to eight times the size of Earth going on the Sumerian descriptions this is a large object anything anywhere near the inner part of the solar system there’s a pretty good likelihood that the amateur astronomers would pick that up well on its way here and if it made a fairly close pass the impact on earth well you know in the past as I mentioned the Sumerians give a very elongated tail that explained how in the past when Nibiru passed by it actually caused gravitational pull on our ice sheets our tectonic ice sheets up at the top and just like a Ice Cube being dropped into a glass of water one of our ice sheets at the top of the earth just kind of cracked off into the ocean and instantly raised the water 300 feet or more so you know that’s kind of a little disconcerting to think about you know that it has had this effect in the past but aren’t really where I focused my attention with the whole idea of planet axon Nibiru isn’t on the camino the catastrophe potential was it’s more on the potential of reuniting with ancestors that are off planet mean if Nibiru does exist it’s very possible that we actually have ancestors that live on that planet well yes it’s pretty heavy I don’t know that we’d be happy to see them again or would they be happy to see us and what we said maybe if you do the math and I know that you’re doing the math when might we expect let’s assume it’s absolutely true for a moment planets when would we expect a close pass again well you know zecharia sitchin had a specific date that’s you know few hundred years from now it’s really something that’s going to be difficult to pinpoint until our telescopes and science can actually confirm where this planet is now since the early 80s zecharia sitchin met with the lead astronomer for the naval observatory dr. Robert Harrington and compared the nibiru model with the Naval Observatory model which concluded dr. Robert Harrington had a model that showed by just including one extrasolar planet it explains all the anomalies we see in our current solar system why Uranus is tilted on its side why Jupiter are skewed oh and Neptune could be possibly dislodged moons of Saturn various things that we see at the time when he was doing his calculations again in the 80s dr. Harrington said all the planets are suffering from something called perturbations all of the planets are being pulled in a certain direction within space but there’s nothing there there should be a large planet but there’s nothing there kind of like it’s kind of like thinking of a pool table with all the balls on the table scattered around and then taking the cue ball and slamming it into the middle and see what happens and only only actually it’s worse than that because of the the gravitational effects you don’t even have to hit anything you just have to get close right kind of whiz by it right and so you know there there’s been this model being calculated for quite a while now that shows you know there’s probably something out there that suspected our orbit of the planets in the past and now as we look into this extrasolar a Planet X is there another large body within our within our system what do we do we go ahead and demote Pluto to not being a planet I don’t agree with that but you know it is an interesting thought that we are now using extremely advanced telescopes we have one out there now called the Spitzer telescope actually I think it was originally called certif and and remained at the Spitzer so either one of those names would bring it up Serta for Spitzer if you google it this telescope is amazing it’s sitting out in space and it’s able to temperature regulate itself where it sits at a temperature just below freezing and other telescopes that we have out there like Hubble and the IRAs are IRAs scuse me most of these other telescopes are not able to penetrate these large dust clouds where when we start to look really deep into space there are certain areas where there’s these you know dark cloudy masses and we can’t see through them however these new telescopes like the Spitzer are completely infrared so they’re able to calibrate themselves to the temperature of this dust cloud and and just penetrate right through it using infrared essentially a heat signature so we’re starting to get detail and see all these new Suns and in different solar systems and there is a large likelihood art that we will actually identify a rogue planet that that fits the me be remodel within the next ten years that’s actually viewable and trackable within our solar system at that point then it becomes a little more interesting to go well you’re saying that there’s this planet 48 times the size of Earth and we’re tracking its orbit and it’s going to come into the inner part of the solar system or be near us in two hundred years interesting we should keep an eye on it keep an eye on it Jason that would be an ele event probably it’s not close if a guy bellies and le it’s definitely in Le I mean I don’t know if it would be another great flood or if a hunk of the planet would break off or we assumed a new orbit that ended up changing the temperature on Earth by about a hundred degrees something awful like that is definitely possible it is a possibility but you know there’s there’s really nothing that anyone can do at that level if if something’s gonna if there’s going to be an le events like deep impact what am I going to do to worry about it or even you know research something like that if it’s going to happen it’s going to happen where I find it interesting art is the fact that you know there seems to be another angle to the gist the catastrophe side apart alright but stick with that for just a moment and then we’ll move on Jason if your research led to the fact that the rule actually was coming Planet X was or is coming and in a couple of hundred years we’ll produce an LA like that here would it be your position that the people of the world should be told or that the people of the world really should go on about their business and telling them would only produce the ele events probably ahead of time anyway because everybody panic and go nuts yeah that’s a hard one to answer i I think my personal opinion is I do think that the world has a right to know and I do think that the powers that be financially I don’t mean the government private equity would take our race off planet I know XPrize Bronson Bigelow there are many people that are that are looking into you know taking us into space so I think in a couple hundred years we’re probably going to advanced very quickly in that realm but really who knows and in art this really will go back to the topic of this lost cycle of time in that there seems to be again which we’re going to get into a reason why we go into the dark ages to forget everything and then go into this golden age and have this enlightenment but it’s very possible that you know there’s there’s another factor outside of just the cycle which is catastrophic events in the last time we were in the Golden Age I calculate that there was also a cataclysmic event heating we’re super advanced technologically and spiritually and here comes a huge asteroid or something that you know wipes us all out and really makes us lose touch with this lost information that could happen again well Jason maybe it’s um sort of a cosmic race in other words this planet comes by every whatever it however many years it is and it’s a race to see if we have become technologically advanced enough to do something about it and get humans elsewhere to continue the human race as it were and maybe we just haven’t quite made you know won the race just yet very quickly now we’re going very quickly now so you never know we might make it this time well you know ever since you know some of these like presidents like Reagan you know giving his speech in front of the UN you know about you know isn’t there already an extraterrestrial presence I think it’s really interesting that you know within our lifetime hopefully some of this knowledge will become more prevalent and there does seem to be some type of desensitizing and I almost think art that you know it seems like Earth is the one on quarantine if we look at you know the idea of like a Galactic Federation Star Wars are tracks some conglomerate race races collaborating you know if they were to look at us and see us blowing each other up expelling natural resources why would they want to give us more technology when we’re so unstable it seems almost like we’re being nudged to make these decisions for ourselves so that we can be welcomed to this galactic table if you will maybe that’s it when we finally win the race then we’re welcomed at the table what do you think yeah I mean we’re essentially talking about a collision between one of the moons of Nibiru and our primitive earth and the intermingling of the waters from you know Nibiru and its moon as well as with earth and that’s probably where we initially had life being seated on our planet the evolutionary process on Nibiru could have been taking place a lot longer so it’s very possible that the asteroid belt might actually contain other fragments of life to show a connection between the beer and earth well I think John was hoping that Planet X is no longer with us that it is that all that’s left of it now is the asteroid belt right well there was a very excellent researcher dr. Thomas van Flandern and a good friend of mine that unfortunately passed away a little while ago and he wrote a book called the exploded planet hypothesis um and you know essentially when we look at all of the other planets in our system even our moon we see extensive fragmentation from meteorites and comets and various things so it’s it’s very possible that there was you know some type of a large you know events in the past that caused a lot of these potholes and things that we see not only on our moon but on some of the other other planets you have mentioned here’s something about a discovery that was made something 2,000 years old some kind of mechanism found in 1901 by divers what was that yes that’s excellent the piece of technology that was found in let’s see around 1901 off the coast of Antikythera yeah small island their dates there and it’s it’s an interesting device because it’s probably about 2,000 years old and it’s more complicated than a modern-day Swiss watch it has somewhere between 35 and 70 different cogs and wheels all intricately intricately connected and the Antikythera mechanism was used for two purposes these that’s what we see ur eyes one was for as an astronomical device so that as a person navigating on a ship they could use this device to tune it to a certain point in to a certain star as an example and it would help them navigate the Seas the other purpose of it seemed to be as an astrological device where it can tell you like if you were born on a certain day that the planet Jupiter aligns with Mars and and you know then they would be able to give you more information about this vehicle specificity of your of your birth date but a pretty interesting piece of technology that’s you know over 2,000 years old to me is really only accredited to someone like maybe Archimedes but we really don’t know who who invented it Jason when scientists archaeologists find something really old that they cannot explain they have a way of sort of putting that stuff up on the shelf and just ignoring it because it doesn’t fit into the paradigm that they’ve decided is the way things were yep we’ve seen that many instances of you know one of the greatest examples I like through through our History Channel is references of the power of flight we see on various continents depictions of what are mislabeled as bird or insect models that under closer scrutiny you know we found one in Egypt in the in the tomb of a Egyptian governor and it’s labeled as a bird model but when you look at it it has all the intrinsic characteristics of a plane and none of the intrinsic characteristics of a bird same thing in South America we found these these these trinkets these gold trinkets that look like for all intents and purposes little jets and they have a 90 degree tail fin and you know they don’t look like a bird they’re mislabeled as insect models but I think they’re actually demonstrations for power of flight you actually have something called a Sumerian rocket don’t you well I not myself but yes there’s there’s an actual term called a Shem and the Sumerian descriptions explain how the gods the Anunnaki had these large ships where they somehow a small piece called the Shem would detach and come down to earth that’s how the gods descended to earth was on this Shem and it looks just like a rocket capsule just like what we would do today in a return capsule coming back to earth a little triangular shaped tip and it wasn’t just the Sumerians now if it was just them we’d be like well that’s coincidental but various other cultures even in India the the Buddha would be ascending or descending in something called a stupa which again looks like this triangular shaped kind of a pod so yeah it’s a really interesting paradox there are that a lot of the mislabeled pieces of evidence have either been put on a shelf and called something inappropriate where it’s not you know it’s an insect instead of a plane or they’re just not able to to classify what it is J’son know if what you say is true if these cycles come back again and again and again wouldn’t you think that we better get our space program going again quickly I I do I do but for for various reasons you know I think the threat of us having to leave the planet because of some catastrophe is less likely I think the idea that as we were mentioning before the break there’s a galactic community I think I’d be much more interested in in being able to interact with beings that are not from Earth let me give you an example you know I love my pets and they rely on me for everything I feed them I give them you know their house and I give them love and they must look at me in such awe and this being that gives them everything and you playing with laptops and I Skype them and they’re like how does he talk to me through this sort of thing right but they don’t have any of them yet constructed any tall pale Jason’s I need to look in the birdcage a little closer but no not that I’m aware of but what’s the interesting art is that this connection that I have with my animals imagine how they must look at me and all reverence they love me oh yes we as humans supposedly had some connection with something higher than us where we identified that Wow we understand our place there are beings greater than us and express to us in ways greater than we can understand and somehow we lost that the ancients had it and now we don’t and I long for that art I think that that might be part of our desensitizing is you know there’s good and bad and I and I personally believe that we would like to reunite with these ancient gods all these ancient cultures were told by their gods we are coming back do you do you think that was regard to your pets that was your something you said up there I’m your pets love you as you mentioned do you think they love you enough that if you died and you were no longer feeding them they wouldn’t eat you they wouldn’t eat other words that they’re there they’re the love that they felt for you would would keep them from doing that I think so I mean I wouldn’t eat them my I jokingly call my Birds sometimes they smell like little chicken McNuggets you know I mean but I just eat them I love them and you know we see this in interesting relationships with the animals here on earth where a goat and a mountain lion or friends or a bear and a dog or you know people who have had like actual lions as pets and release them into the wild come back four years later and the lion runs out of the crowd and tackles the owner remembering the bond you know or even ya know all of that is true I nevertheless I think that if they were starving Jason and I jot down well you know I love them that much art that if I’m dead and they need to feast on me and hey no problem okay I guess that’s how it well you know all of this is really fascinating and there are so many people that leave this basin and they believe it to the degree that they think it’s about to happen again the cycle he’s about to commence well let’s let’s let’s get back on this topic of the cycle because it’s a really close thing to me that it’s very esoteric to convey but I think is immensely important for your audience to grasp especially people who are interested in the idea of a Nibiru and a Planet X a couple of breaks ago we started to talk about the that there’s three cycles of Earth astronomical cycles the the first two are aware of and the third is a kicker so the first one is we’re spinning on our access this simple astronomical cycle of us spinning on our axis causes day and night now we don’t think about it but when it gets dark you lose consciousness and go to sleep because of an astronomical cycle meaning that spin of day and night changing affects us cycle number two is we’re going around the Sun and as we go around the Sun seasons change winter spring summer fall animals migrate you know there’s a lot of things that happen simply because of us going around the Sun well there’s a third cycle all the ancients say that there’s also another larger cycle and and we track it currently by calling it the precession of the equinoxes and this cycle lasts 24,000 years a lot longer but but all the ancient cultures like the Mayans had these intricate calendars that were tracking this large cycle of time and they’ve barely very clearly said that just like the first two this third cycle has an effect on humanity and I think that that cause or the effect is we actually go into the dark ages and forget everything and then go into the Golden Age and have this closeness with God now what is causing this third cycle is the new science that I’ve been really latched on to and studying the last few years there’s an organization as a business partner of mine gentleman named Walter Cunningham and he does a conference every year called CPAC now Walter has all of the great people like dr. Schaack John Anthony West Robert Bauval Carmen bolter various hearts hitters that are looking at this precede the precession of the equinoxes model and starting to understand that you know this is something that has been affecting us for a very long time there’s a there’s an interesting analogy to so that we can understand and put this into context you know 24,000 years is a really long time there’s an insect that lives here on earth called the mayfly in an order it only lives for 24 hours so if it’s born on a cloudy day another may fly might come up to and go you know I’ve heard these rumors of like sunshine and wind I’ve never seen it yeah you’re doing is a very odd point no it’s very possible that we live such a short lifespan that we can’t this we can’t not consider the information being told to us that there is a larger context and that it has an effect on us there really is is a very good point it’s a really crushingly good point Jason well here’s where it gets really interesting art the latest science is saying that we’re a binary solar system two suns and there seems to be a correlation between our binary orbit where when our sons are at their closest point to each other yes we’re in the golden age when the Suns are at their farthest points from each other we’re in the dark ages and as this cycle repeats we continue to learn a bunch of information and become very advanced to a point where in the golden age we can actually as a whole some of the Vedic Indian texts explain that these Yogi’s and things that go back tens of thousands of years they explain that in the golden age we can actually comprehend God so we’re about nine thousand years away from being in the golden age but we’re just coming out of the Bronze Age and in this cycle even Plato tracted he called it the great year it’s a very interesting way to start to look at our History Channel understanding that there might be a cyclical pattern to our evolution where does God fit into this well you know God is that’s a a little bit higher level topic then you know I would have any data but I think oh I know but I just couldn’t resist I’m sorry I write you mentioned God and we’re talking about these giant cycles and I’m just wondering where God would sit in I don’t necessarily expect an answer but well I have an answer for you but I I think my answer is again relying on our current science is available as well as a little you know slice of faith I think that the gods and things that are referenced in our current Bible and various texts you know most other cultures don’t just speak of a God they speak of God’s even the Hebrew Bible gods so I think what we’re looking at is all these ancient cultures that we revere now Egyptians Mayans Toltecs Mesopotamia they’re all speaking of a time when they got to interact with what they considered to be godlike beings we don’t have any of that now and so we only look at a level higher than what these beings probably were to the actual one god that there is a wonderful Sumerian tale that explains the Anunnaki view of God and the Anunnaki themselves explained to the Sumerians we believe in a one God and we call it the father of all creation and I kind of like that it’s a nice phrase it’s kind of like it – well you have the we do have the greys maybe what is your view by the way on that are we being currently visited in your view yes I strongly believe that and when we look at the historical evidence Gray’s even being depicted with Sumerians there’s depictions of these beings that they called eg G that assisted the Anunnaki and medical experiments and flying their craft and it pretty much looked like a gray alien you know if we were created in their image and after their likeness he’s talking about the Sumerians and the Anunnaki if the Anunnaki did have some genetic intervention with us it made us in their image and after their likeness very possible they could have taken another Zeta reticulan or some other type of race and cloned them or done some type of genetic offshoot because throughout time we have these references of the watchers or something that is over swinging us yes mm-hmm fascinating so you do believe they’re here well you know as I mentioned art III I feel more inclined to talk about this stuff with you and then most hosts but I don’t ever really mention these other things on a lecture but you know because I stick to the ancient stuff but I’ve you know I’m very intimate as far as friendships with people like dr. Leir Steve Neil Whitley Strieber not so well but well enough that we’ve been through things and and I have been aware of people who have these circumstances in their life whether it be alien abduction or removing implants or studying this phenomenon firsthand without a doubt there is something happening now and there has been for a long time but as I mentioned it’s a little bit more difficult to get into some of these current topics without you know there is a long way I guess it’s reasonable to ask I mean do you think that they’re monitoring their work sure yeah and that’s the angle I kind of take is that I definitely think that if the Anunnaki from that hypothesis did create us then why wouldn’t they also have let’s call it a worker race that’s helping them with their grand medical experiment every time someone’s abducted it has to do with reproductive fluids or genetic information you know producing offspring and things that you know it’s all kind of in alignment with if if they are helping the Anunnaki that’s all they kind of do is kind of check up on us and relay information because they don’t really show any emotions like the like the ancient gods did all right Jason what I would like to do is this um I would like to know my board off back in DC to go ahead and open up the phone lines right now we’re not we’re not gonna take calls just but we are going to take calls and I’ll even take Skype calls for Jason Martel this is all really truly fascinating stuff and I’d like an opportunity for you to be able to ask questions so we have a phone number it’s a cool one eight five five real UFO or eight five five seven three two five eight three six and we’ll begin taking questions from the audience after the break anything else that you really feel is important to get in before we do that well you know as we progress in the show there’s I definitely want to come back to this topic of a binary orbit and explain some of the current research being done by the binary Research Institute to start to look for evidence that we are actually in a binary orbit and with two suns right correct binary should the two suns right so should there not very soon now be some technological way to confirm that yes all of our space satellites all of our advances and being able to do extrasolar detection we’re putting a lot of focus on the star system Cirrus Sirius which is actually serious a and B it’s two suns but it’s very likely that there are planets orbiting those suns and many of these ancient cultures here on earth like the Dogons in africa no connection to technology no telescopes accurately sight that is where the gods are coming from there was something that I wanted to ask you about oh yes and after the continents moved now what evidence is there that all those thousands of years ago there was movement from continent to continent well as far as you know trade routes and such we we have two ways to answer that first we have ancient maps that you know some of these go back into the 1400s all the way up into the 1800s where there’s again no conveyance of craft like a glider or a hot-air balloon and we have accurate topography of the of the north and south pole which means the landmass is accurately defined underneath a mile thick ice no ground-penetrating radar no flight craft but somehow we have these ancient maps that show our land continents correctly underneath a mile stick of ice how did they get that information and then there’s the idea that you know these continents have at some point were connected because we see animals and and species that have been on one continent and moved to another as well as trade routes and things that over the thousands of years we didn’t think there was any contact transoceanic contact between these cultures yet these all the evidence is pointing to the fact that yes they were all somehow in a large global trade that we weren’t aware of until now okay good enough you’re on the air from California Margie I’m the negative lady again and anyway I’m finding your show so interesting tonight I was wondering I read like the Torah or the five books of Moses and a lot of things in that talk of the Nephilim and that the a naxaiites a part of the Nephilim and they ate supposedly as it says and all the people they saw were of great size and we look like grasshoppers to ourselves and so we must have looked to them but also one of the things when it’s L sent Scouts ahead when they were out in the desert 12 tribes the country that we Traverse and scout it is one that devours its settlers so you know even in the Natur or I don’t know if that’s even mentioned and you Old Testament I was lucky enough to speak with a savant who was able to tell me and so point-blank that the record number of things that were repeated in the Bible blood was four hundred and forty seven times chosen was 123 and the word seed was 280 it’s just interesting that there’s so many little clues and and I’m wondering whether the Nephilim would be coming in on the Nibiru or no and certainly a fair question we’ll take that Jason well I appreciate the call and why I’m not sure if that’s the Margie I know but I do know someone named RG in California closely and that was a very interesting piece of information in our jury Marjorie you know normally negative know this one is okay go ahead you know the Nephilim coming in on Nibiru you know so the word Nephilim the fallen ones again we’re starting to talk about more recent descriptions which I think here’s how I would answer it we see an overriding theme that comes out of the Sumerian Anunnaki the number 12 they came Nibiru is the 12th planet Anunnaki coming from the 12th planet in our solar system well if we think about there’s the 12 Greek Olympians the 12 tribes of Jesus the 12 decided well Vries of Israel the 12 disciples of Jesus 12 hours in a day 12 months in a year 12 inches in a foot all of these references to 12 actually stem from Sumer originally saying that their gods came from the 12th planet and created again based on astronomical movements all of the things that we use today around time and measurement so her question was are they going to be coming with the planet well you know I I don’t know all I can say is is that all the references we have for the idea of you know 12 gods in this system it’s it’s very possible that Nibiru again was kind of a core story of all of these references to 12 in our biblical tales of the 12 disciples of Jesus or the 12 tribes of Israel 12 Greek Olympians so yes there could be some correlation to the idea that the word Nephilim is referring to again these ancient gods the anunnaki all right Marc in Pennsylvania hello art yes sir Dido nian Roswell’s thank you Jason yes this is your old friend Mark the webmaster yeah hey Mark the the face on Mars the second face on Mars the man who brought that to life that’s correct as well as you might recall the two dolphins which had very little coverage but yeah Google that the two dolphins inside Donia you will find it just like there are two faces there are two dolphins these are not a case of pareidolia or any other made-up term that Michael Shermer sceptical society might want to come up with they are real and they’re part of something that again still needs to be brought up further like you said now I wanted to bring up you guys have gone a little bit into the DNA and the genetics earlier but left kind of light on that I really wanted to direct people and ask them to research chromosome 2 now you know what this is as you know all the other major primates of 48 chromosomes and the humans have to have 40 46 in other words we went from 24 pairs to 23 and yet somehow lost a chromosome lost a chromosome gosh how does that happen what’s been discovered fitting right on as you know I am a City night you know and I and I take his work to heart and consider him to be a genius on the level of Einstein and later on hopefully will be recognized as such all of his work from the path leading up to now from rogue planets that the Sumerians talked about before anybody in any sense of anything like that now we know that there are billions of them flying around this each galaxy so leading up from that oldest information to now the chromosome 2 situation is the following somehow even there’s never been another mammalian fusion of tube 2 chromosomes where it was based at the telomeres somehow someone flipped over the third primary chromosome fused it the second primary chromosome and that’s why humans only have 23 not 24 and at the same time a huge amount of DNA and genetic information seems to have appeared together at the same time scientists will say oh well maybe when that fusion happened some sort of the DNA from some bug got in there somehow okay all of this fits specifically precisely in with the work of zecharia sitchin and the creation of humans by jump-starting evolution taking that homo erectus something along those lines and flipping over fusing the genes together and inserting their own there is still a little bit of an open question what was that required for we can’t be absolutely over zone but whoo chromosome 2 and if everybody just dives into that further I think all of our answers ultimately I one time was riding on the subway through a Bethesda Maryland and I happened to see a gaggle of about 20 these guys working from the from the NIH and the genetics department and I questioned them about this and they went stone-faced when I confronted them with it so again there’s a lot of questions still out there but I think all the stitching’s work will ultimately be recognized as correct you know on the enlarged you know the overall value of it and chromosome 2 I think is where we’re all going to be able to find out exactly what went on when humans were created and again this goes back for the lady earlier that was talking about the torah’ and what have you the sumerian creation tablets are a much more detailed version of the book of Genesis the first book of the Torah scroll you can see of me at let you reference before mj-12 I actually don’t take that as a joke I actually personally think that that was sort of a little bit fine a little bit of a tongue who knows you know yeah when they said when they set up the control group for the UFO phenomenon I think they very well definitely by then you know had that sort of access to some of the old information that the 12th you know the 12 there’s I mean ah keep a sparse and Jupiter every 3,600 years and again for the for the people that were wondering how that work you know when you have a 3,600 year orbit that takes it ten times out further than Pluto and before it comes back from below the below the ecliptic and then comes back from beneath and passes through the asteroid belt clearing out the space like you mentioned you know when that planet is out there it’s not receiving really any energy from the Sun so it’s likely that Nibiru is an internally heated planet that the gold that they sought after to create the monoatomic golden sphere around their home planet was something that they could only achieve from another you know an earth-like planet where they could go in mind for the gold which is why specifically said they came here and that’s why they then ultimately after there was the mutiny and in harsh tagging her half brother’s Enlil and Enki you know dealing with this mutiny decided to jumpstart evolution and that’s why they created the easily hypnotizable gold lusting after slave worker that we appeared within and ultimately both a worker slash worshipper which is why we brought the burnt offerings of the Hebrew Bible that’s the spring and cooked food to the Anunnaki beings which by the way we’re kind of short on done so I’ll leave it at the question of Jason uh you know I hope you’ll look further than the chromosome two and if you can explore that further I think that’s got a lot of the answers that you might be searching for and I hope you’ll address that either tonight or in future shows Thanks probably have to be future shows I would imagine that’s something you’ve got to look into very interesting though very very interesting obviously a lot of people put a lot of stock in this Ohio brings Jeff hi Jeff no I didn’t go ahead you don’t have a very good well I think I understand anything the best answer I could probably give for the caller there as you know as an example let’s say the Dark Side of the Moon there there are areas within our solar system that are not completely visible to us even with our telescopes and so if I understood the caller hopefully you know as an answer I would say places like the Dark Side of the Moon actually contain a whole slew of theories that come out that there’s actually a civilization currently on the moon on the dark side that when we landed there we were told hey you know you’re not really we don’t really want you here and even some of our astronauts is being quoted why do you send us here in tricycles when the military is here in a Ferrari actually I’m sorry I heard that very recently that we were warned off the moon yeah so I mean who knows and that’s obviously a whole show in itself – exploring that topic but I do find it fascinating so do I David you’re on the air on skype hello yeah thank you very much it sounds really good well as well as to the area 51’s good to hear your voice I really believe that we are an expanding earth and I know that the fellow who came up with that proposition died but his proposition was not not only was the earth expanding but the whole universe is expanding our solar system is and the timeframe between cycles between in the visit of Nibiru I believe is actually shortening and I don’t believe that we have 9,000 years we’re closer why do you think it’s Jordan aim because of the expansion well you had that notion yourself with the quickening we seem to see that we’re advancing towards another Ice Age pretty quick and and we just got out of the last one and that hadn’t happened before so I’m just suspecting please continue no actually to have your opinion oh okay so so one quick clarification I would like to make is that maybe Roos coming back does not coincide with our ascension into the golden age which will take place around 9,000 years from now Nibiru turning is probably gonna happen around I think it’s 21 90 or something like that it’s not very far away as far as Sitchin’s calculations and forgive me if I’m wrong on that exact number but it’s actually not that far off maybe you know a few hundred years but you know what’s going to happen when this planet passes by us next I you know that would be hard to speculate on okay Louisiana and John hi John yes go ahead yeah listener first-time caller really enjoy your show Jason I really enjoy your show and and also we said my question is you mentioned the the global power grid that the pyramids could be part of and the the Mayan people Egyptian pyramids may have been part of now has anyone ever drawn lines between these all these locations to see if any kind of pattern emerges and could there be other places that haven’t been found yet let’s say for example like could the Bermuda Triangle be kind of a focal point for that power grid well it’s a great question answer it like this the geodetic sites like Stonehenge and giza giza is is actually on the exact center point of our landmass and so many of these other sites again are at specific geodetic locations where it is possible that there was some type of an energy or something that they were utilizing a world energy grid you know to tap into this type of power he asked about lines whether right the other thing to at least say there is that there is a term called ley lines and it seems that yes many of these megalithic sites do fall on these ley lines these energy you know signatures that again we don’t really understand how this functions or if there’s enough energy now even to detect it but it the theory is that at some point in our past these were all charged sites that somehow transferred energy between them it really sounds like a lot of what you’re saying is is falling in line with some of what richard hoagland talks about when he talks about he is well when he talks about everything actually a lot of what you’re saying be point one for I know well it does let’s see Texas brings John hi John oh hello art the serious is really cool I just stopped the broadcast so I can listen to myself later my speaking of chromosomes are we my question is are we still slaves I mean I guess then Anunnaki came here and enslaved us earned one of the brothers apparently and I got a bunch of gold diggers right and so I saw with a friend a UFO when I was young and that and that wasn’t a problem and then when I got a little bit older both of my sisters on separate occasions showed me UFOs one out of my older sister’s bedroom window at night behind the curtains they were flying around the house and I said what are they here for what are they doing she said well they’re here to protect us the next one was my younger sister out of my bedroom window at night I don’t know it’s this relates how does this relate to Jason well okay that’s route has to do with slavery okay speaking of homophone because nothing happened to me and how did my sisters know to point out these these UFOs well I actually love the caller’s comment and in question I’d answer it this way there’s an excellent 12 hour miniseries by Steven Spielberg called taken and it shows the involvement and even arts obviously if playoffs and there was driving around in this trailer with the genetic little little girl which I’m sure you’re familiar with but taken is an excellent series that shows these lineages you know the lineage track through an abduction channel and who knows but I mean I think something like taken is an excellent documentary that sheds light into that type of a question because young enough to be fair wasn’t a documentary it was actually fiction right you’re right I use the word documentary loosely because they used tangible references like you they did okay and a trilateral symbol on the clothing of some of the people and Wackenhut security maybe the point is is you know certain things in our media and you know I think taken to answer your question is an interesting topic into why I might be lying in bed and I would get abducted but not my fiance not that I get abducted but my point is is that sometimes it’s very genetically selective even outside of our family unit they might want the child rather than the mother I don’t know why but it is a very interesting question okay Montana brings bud hi bud howdy hey night well I was just kind of wondering cuz you know I’m a big fan of art and a big fan of Jason and I would be benefit of the program ancient Antient Aliens and that I’m I’m big you know Jason talked a little earlier about how different solar systems and the universes actually get closer to each other and that gives us a ability to fly from one to the other as Antient Aliens go and I was wondering because I’m in this like I was in Alaska when Hale Bopp left PI and it was beautiful up there I mean I Wow did you guys see this did you read Discover Magazine this month with this new comet that’s coming in that they discovered like about you mean don’t use them there’s another comet coming in are you referring to ice and they said it and they said it left the Oort cloud yes sir no wait oh yeah you know oh yeah about you are you talking about my son yep okay and it’s gonna be here next fall now these comets have a gravitational effect on Earth is when they come by you’re right they also have a static charge that affects our planet’s electromagnetics you know the it’s a really great point sir you know these things you know have them cited many times where I’m not scared I don’t think anything’s going to happen but I do think it’s interesting that now we’re starting to pay attention and because they’re the comic yeah they’re like they’re like they’re like that the via yeah Lucia no no please continue they’re like they’re like that that device that they found in there in the sea out there that there was so precise and our universe and our solar system is just like that I mean it’s a big clock just works like that you know I’ve always thought that I’ve always thought that and you and yon when you’re on your show ancient Antient Aliens and everything you’re explaining this I love it you know and I just wanted to you know just your thoughts on these comments coming in I don’t think anything’s gonna happen either as far as this comic because they’ve already got to project it and they even got to be here till next fall we I son will be the closest approach to the Sun I believe in November I think that’s correct at the end of November is what I’ve heard now I know the comments have a pretty significant impact on the Sun and a lot of people believe that comets have a very significant relationship to our Sun and frequently when there’s a comet around you see an awful lot of activity on the Sun and I would like to point out that right now we have lots of activity on the Sun any any comments reason well I I you know I think it’s very interesting that comets in ancient times were always a precursor to some event or as a change and you know there’s also the idea that any large body moving through our solar system whether it be a Planet X or anything those gravitational forces are effect so that there could be debris following any large object so then you know hopefully we were to start seeing a inflection of a lot of comments maybe that’s a precursor to something else you know headed this way okay California and Mike hi come on bill it’s been a while taxes I’ve heard you last time I was listening to you you were on fm you could probably tell me how many years ago that was but I just recently got a vehicle with satellite radio and rediscovered you and been listening tonight and Jason I’ve got a big question for you in regards to Biblical prophecy okay yeah the accuracy of past Biblical prophecy leading up to today and the way the world is today and revelation and its future Biblical prophecy seems to me like somebody would have had to have an ability to travel through time to be as accurate as the Bible is and has been my I’m a born-again Christian and I definitely believe that God created everything the heavens in the earth and that he is outside of time and our universe he caused business Bible to be written for us basic instruction before leaving Earth well I just wondered what your take on the future biblical prophecy about Jesus’s return and the way that the world is going today is to me it seems like it’s very very accurately predicted in the Bible knowledge I’ll let you answer that and I’ll listen on the air thank you I think that Jason’s I’m gonna say something I think that Jason’s take on things doesn’t it’s not in opposition to the Bible but rather he thinks that Bible documents along with what he believes to be the way things happen right Jason thank you are yes I very much so from the beginning of my interest are I’m trying to uphold the biblical veracity very much so and that’s where it started to get very interesting to me when I you know find out about these things like the Anunnaki and the Sumerians so you know as far as the Bible being accurate and things to be coming in the future I too as a young Christian found things very interesting when I started to get a foothold into the field of ufology and just kind of tangentially noticed that things happening in the Middle East are escalating and have been and I don’t really know what any of that means from the biblical angle because you know I were we’re in a state of exponentially you know speeding up your quickening but I don’t think that’s a I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing so the biblical prophecy of the future is very hard to predict but what I what I do is give analogies that hopefully shed light into you know reality let’s just say all of a sudden over Wilshire Boulevard and in Beverly Hills these clouds emerge in this bright light viewing out of the clouds and all of a sudden Jesus a figure that looks like Jesus in white robes is descending into the middle of the street what would happen right people would freak out and and then our Sciences would take over we’d want to test the atmosphere around Jesus the the gas that he’s a how’s it holding him aterial what is it made of right we would we would take that approach we would want to use our Sciences to go I’m blinking twice what’s going on nothing like that ever publicly happens or has in our lifetime now all the ancients recorded these amazing events like that so it’s a very hard question to answer what’s going to happen in the future and the mention of time travel is the last piece I’d like to comment on philip corso jr. his book and the understanding that we’ve been taking the Roswell craft back in time over and over it may be easier for us to reverse-engineer it’s a whole other topic that we couldn’t even cover tonight but I’m a firm believer and the idea that we must be using some type of time travel there’s never been an alien invasion there’s never been a nuclear weapon detonated and I don’t think there will be if we had the ability to foresee these events and then change the parameters so that they don’t come to light okay so you think time travel is a reality and in use constantly I unfortunately do but I don’t believe us Orion yeah on skype Jim you’re on there hi are you just a little bit of delay so my timings a little bit off well just turn your radio off and not to worry you got it you know I have been noticing many discussions over the last 20 years about sit-ins and the Anunnaki and one of the things that really intrigues me is the possibility there quotation Vaughn the Ananda the UH nuna the gods on conceived in the sky and you know I’ve always conceived of a visiting civilization you know inhabiting a planet or a really huge you know orbiting object of some sort and I wonder how much and how much thought the gentlemen have have put into that concept of visiting gods on a planetary object quite a bit apparently Jason right well if I understood the question you know the idea that we’ve had gods visiting us and they’re coming from you know a spaceship slash planet Nibiru has been in question for ever since the idea that there is a Nibiru huh a planet that we potentially have ancient gods that live on his Nibiru a spaceship is it a planet all of the evidence points to the fact that it’s an actual planet based on the descriptions by the Anunnaki given directly to a human being and written down the Nibiru is a very mountainous planet it has very high mountain peaks and very low oceans how do we know this because well we don’t we only have the descriptions of what the Anunnaki told the Sumerian scribed with a priest present and they wrote it down as sacred information okay so Nibiru is a mountainous planet low water levels and has a certain type of a glow to it and the Anunnaki themselves are said to have had a glow that’s why we see a halo around these angels and beings from the heavens is because they literally glowed to a certain degree it’s kind of like you are what you eat and coming from a glowing planet they maintain that phosphorescence naturally alright let’s go to North Carolina and Benjamin you’re on the air with Jason Martel hi I’m I just had a question about the Egyptian pyramids I’m feeling I’ve heard I’ve heard you talk about the pyramids to come a couple of different shows and then in an awful day is it possible that the Egyptians had plus a large strong army that this army built those pyramids for their Sparrow or well that that certainly would leave the story if you ask an Egyptian antiquities person they would absolutely tell you that yes that is how it occurred you know a lot of slave labor the army yes like that but if you talk to engineers and you talk to scientists they will talk about the impossibility of and and frankly in modern times they’ve tried to duplicate the pyramids with no luck at all they have to move like a stone every two minutes or something 24 hours a day not even counting the 7,000 tons of several you know Talitha ton blocks that her put into place all right does it help you I mean I I’ve been kind of curious it’s no hazama gypsum pyramids or hope they’re also yeah so are we thank you very much your best guess Jason about how the pyramids got there my best guess is that there is a lost there was a lost culture here that could have been human or a hybrid it’s a reference to those beings I mentioned earlier that we see at bada Valley in Indonesia or the moai heads and Rapa Nui or the beings depicted at gobekli tepe slender beings with the arms folded at the waist it seems to me that there is a lost race or civilization that they were the ones that were doing all the vitrification of stone and building all these monuments accurately and perfectly and then all the cultures that we now know of have retained that information as best they could all right to Canada way up north and Doug hi Doug hello Doug okay hey James I do the question I had was how come all what most immature but occasions all have two chromosomes less than the aboriginals over in Australia well I unfortunately have to bail out on that question and would be just be giving you you know information that I couldn’t exactly relate to that exact question so okay because that was my question I just want to know because uh I was reading on the internet that type results have two more chromosomes than the Caucasians yeah well I wear that that’s that’s worth pursuing in terms of just knowledge I’d like to know myself yeah yeah thank you and I know a caller earlier my friend Mark who you know brought up chromosome 2 I don’t that ties into that at all but you know again our our genetics I think the deeper we look in there the further out we might realize we actually come from you mentioned something earlier I’ve been curious about for a very long time Jason and that is junk so-called junk DNA right I doubt that it’s junk I mean whether it was God that laid it all out or an alien or whoever we could be offending somebody by calling it just you know referring to it as junk DNA probably I guess I don’t buy that it does it means something yeah it’s kind of like your tonsils it does something we just don’t know what it is all right to North Carolina again and less i hey art many res wells to you Jason according to your the best masters best math available where would Planet X be coming from and I’ll take my answer off the air thank you guys that’s a really really really good question if you’re going to look in a direction Jason and you were directing a telescope to keep an eye out where would you tell them to look the southern skies there’s a that’s actually a great question because it ties into what what I kind of wanted to touch on earlier but hopefully for a future show we’ll dive really deep into the whole idea of a planet X and its current orbit because you know everyone up to this point is plotting Planet X on an orbit that’s just around our one Sun so if we think about the fact that we’re binary planet x is probably if it does exist it’s orbiting two suns that’s why it can go way out there and loop back around there might be another gravitational field because of our second Sun that causes it causes it to swing back this way okay just a basic question Jason why can’t we see the second Sun we can’t see the second Sun because we don’t know where it is well but a Sun by its nature even if it’s a you know red dwarf or not clearly bright is bright compared to other objects right it is but when we flip on the telescope there’s like two thousand suns in rogue planets floating around and we don’t know all of their trajectories we choose and pick ones that are interesting to the scientific community and track it but there’s very pot large possibilities that we’ve already taken astronomical place of the southern sky and Planet X is in there but we just don’t know which one it is hmm all right let’s go to California and Danny hi Danny hi how are you fine I just wanted to talk about maybe some of the other artifacts found that might support some of the strange buildings and he gets and you know just just just talk about a little bit more some of the things that were found okay well I’d like to make a comment then about Egypt which is very interesting for our view of the past there is a there is a series anyone can rent or you know check out called the pyramid code and it was produced by a awesome lady named dr. Carmen bolter and what this shows and the pyramid code is the fact that the Egyptian the earliest Egyptian cultures existed in a matriarchal state where we are now in a patriarchal state what this means is there was a time in the earliest Egyptian dynasties where they were in complete harmony with nature there was a balance between male and female and it wasn’t this male-dominated society that we have today and so a lot of the petroglyphs excuse me not petroglyphs a lot of the hieroglyphics and various scenes depicting ancient Egypt and the early dynasties are not viewed correctly through our current patriarchal male-dominated state if you if you if we could understand the context of ancient Egypt where there was more of a balance there are things that we just don’t understand and let me give you one little example we think we have five senses the Egyptians the early Egyptians believed in 360 senses and somehow the pineal gland and various other glands within us are like muscles and over thousands or maybe just hundreds of years we’ve we’ve not exercised those muscles and they’ve shrunk down to five senses but it appears the ancient Egyptians could literally stand in front of you and just size you up and know things about you far beyond what we understand today okay to Canada and Dave hi Dave hi I just sort of wanted to sort of mentioned if you sort of already answered the question in a way but you know like you see these are the these representations of like a Space Shuttle looking things and and airplanes and and then you have the astronauts you know with the helmets almost looking that I like it’s light bulbs lots of stuff yeah yeah I don’t want to start another show well actually that’d be great but but do you suppose that the military maybe has has like say back in the in the 60s or something has some sort of time travel technology where the space men that we know today could possibly be what they saw back then like that it might have traveled to the past what a fascinating question that’s a good one what a truly fascinating question thank you yes they did draw these things these things that we have today so could that be a function of time travel something they observed from perhaps our relatively recent future yeah by the time we create time travel some of these things would be seen back then because we caused it to occur Jason well a lot of the theories to around some of the descriptions of you know the greys as an example is it’s some people hypothesized that on our evolutionary track of going into space we’d use less of our limbs and more of our role and so we might actually evolve into a state of looking like a gray and so that’s why they’re coming back and messing with us is because that’s us in the future just thousands and thousands of years evolved into a space race yeah not sure about that but I do think it’s an interesting idea to look at it from the idea that yes time travel I do believe is something that we have access to now so why wouldn’t we have also gone back into the past and flown around and done stuff and yeah I mean if that if that’s the case it makes sense that ancient man very accurately was depicting us using conveyance as a flight with some type of time travel device slapped on the wing or something you know would be Brandon in Canada hello whoa okay I never heard you say my name okay I was listening about your talk in the Bible and are you aware that the Bible talks about in Revelations the asteroids or yeah asteroids that are going to be the weight of a man coming down the powers of the heavens being shaken numerous times in the New Testament frightful sights in the heavens another flood coming well that would be the return of ex yeah that’s what I’m saying the Bible is full of throughout it that I’m that I’ve read references to everything that you’re talking about tonight right well you know the Book of Revelations wormwood Armageddon there are various biblical terms that yes seem to tie into other cultures and even earlier versions of the tale but as we get more clarity into the topic of Armageddon I still for me personally don’t fear or think that it’s coming on its way simply because of all the evidence that we’re finding scientifically like this larger cycle of time that lasts twenty four thousand years in the ancients like the Mayans and various other cultures tracted we’re only here for a speck of time and I don’t want to be too hubristic to think that within a hundred years it’s all going to go down okay Illinois Lauren hello Hey hell’s going on – I was wondering if Jason thought I saw on and Planet X had some circulation eyes on and Planet X yes I think it’s interesting that a lot of comets have a very similar elongated orbit similar to what Planet X’s orbit is where it extends beyond our solar system and possibly passes through the Oort cloud which is essentially another asteroid belt just billions of miles out there so you know whether it’s Planet X or a comment you know there could be and there’s science behind this the term nemesis someone can google it but there’s research to show that the asteroid belt that’s out there the Oort cloud could be me and maybe plan attacks or comets somehow dislodge debris from there and periodically bring them towards us and that does dinosaurs those the fact that Ison is now becoming visible and becoming close and will make a close pass to our Sun does that mean that X may be close I think if we see influx of more solar activity of objects and debris coming into the inner solar system yes I think that that should raise a concern because you know if there is a large planet it’s going to have a lot of debris and comets that gets stuck into this gravitational pull in front of it and behind it and so my gut tells me that if we were to start to see more things being reported then that might raise an eye for concern or or it could be that our near-earth asteroid program is actually kicked into high gear and they’re actually doing something now but well maybe but we get an awful lot of reports Jason of that go around like this yesterday astronomers tell us Earth had a very close encounter right I know and I hate that I mean yesterday you know not good so you think a lot of things like I son there was another comment by the way that blew up recently two days ago and so we are getting quite a bit of this sort of thing and you actually think it could indicate sine of X is somewhere well you know again I I I don’t think Planet X is nearby from the simple point that our amateur astronomy community would be various student seeing something four to eight times the size of Earth let alone a comment but I just think that if there was an influx of debris all of a sudden being noted hitting the Sun and us move NASA my razor knife or concern yeah yeah we should Carter all right boycotting Canada Canada and Greg hi yes Roswell’s to you both are you Jason thank you I got a quick question um I’m curious about the pyramids and could we not combine the technologies and find out if there’s any I was at I was listening to their show the other day II M piece is it possible the like magnetic told ya love the white noise the recordings of the white noise in Egyptian pyramid Oh huh any so you’re saying could we start to like detect resumes yeah guess anybody tested that at all you know not that I’m aware of I’m pretty sure that someone has but that would probably be more in the realm of you know like ghosts and paranormal indications like that so while I fascinating it’s not something that I’ve pursued or would be able to tell you a line of research it would give an information on how their languages and the accident and I was spoken correctly right no you know I mean again and we’re talking about trying to detect dead people talking in these ancient sites yeah then yes I guess it’s possible and that would be a very interesting piece to throw into the mix before you know to be really interesting Jason it would be interesting for some of these people who do EVPs to go to some of the kind of sites that we’re talking about right now exactly I think that’s exactly what the caller is saying and that is you know it’s a cool idea but but I’d have to throw out there that for me personally it falls into the line of evidence like channeling Antient Aliens or psychic abilities unless I have with our current science as a way to test it I can’t do anything with it other than find it fascinating okay Georgia down to Georgia and Arnold hi Arnold hey giggle giggle Roswell Park thank you okay I want ask Jason um the two civilizations that I never hear ever visited by Antient Aliens or Greece and Rome it seems always non-european non-caucasian civilizations that got visited by the Antient Aliens and needed their help and not the Greeks and Romans even though their architecture is massively more advanced than anything the Egyptians or the Aztecs had and they had things like the mark the arch which are not we more advanced than the pyramids great question and you know actually there there is a lot of influence in the greco-roman era but what we see it through is mainly through art even in the Renaissance Age we see various depictions of UFOs and flying shields and things that are put into the artwork and really when we talk about Greek and Roman mythology it’s always around twelve gods which is exactly what the Sumerians talked about there are twelve gods or excuse me that the gods coming from this 12th planet and a whole systematical breakdown of time and measurement of twelve twelve hours in a day 12 inches in a foot twelve and a dozen the twelve the diag all houses of the zodiac break down of the heavens all of that comes from Sumer and I think is spidered out to other cultures like the Greeks and Romans picking it up as well all right Illinois and Duane Hyde Lane Diane Diane I’m sorry I had a question it works really binary as Jason believes is that what’s causing the effect I mean in what effect does that have on the earth and it’s a possible to explain explanation for some of the catastrophic things were having in you know that the warming of the planet and that kind of thing it’s a good question Diane and and I think all of them are connected to some degree but how it answered is this is you know there this this idea that there’s this larger cycle of time based on a binary orbit is very interesting because anyone can even study things like in the Vedic ancient texts they called it the yoga’s a good friend of mine Walter Crumlin who runs this thing called a binary Research Institute another thing you can google the binary Research Institute but there’s a good amount of data that shows there could be a very interesting connection between our binary orbit in that when the Suns are at their core we seem to be here on earth maybe it’s because of the energies of the Sun or it’s something we don’t understand we’re very highly evolved when the Suns are at their farthest point we seem to be in the dark ages there is a lot of good research to suggest that this is the cause of why we have a rise and fall of civilizations here on earth is because of this connection with our binary orbit ok I just like I said I was just wondering if this is you know that the you know how they’re saying global warming and all this could that be explain to us how the moon affects tides could the Sun also affect the earth and other ways you understand what I’m asking I think I understand what you’re saying and there’s a lot of you know people out there that look at like spots on various planets and see like an upwelling of energy and think that there’s a connection or various planets are heating up I don’t know what that could be other than maybe it’s because our Suns possibly are becoming other on their way being closer together and there’s this buildup of energy that’s already starting to take place and it’s going to continue to expedite itself over the next few thousand years all right gene in Pennsylvania Europe you’re on here hey I was just wondering what was your take on star seeds and you know their whole poi to be sent here to help the humanity transition into the new age okay well you know I definitely am a believer that there is a hybridization project to some degree maybe with more than one alien species I see that was a somewhat degree of confidence in that if you took this to a court of law the amount of evidence to stack up and that people who have been abducted creditable people to claim to around the world have encounters aboard a spaceship where the the woman clearly knows that the being has brought her a child that came from her but it’s not completely human over and over there seems to be some type of intervention with us and alien species to interbreed who knows for why I couldn’t even tell you okay Ron and Colorado you’re on the air with Jason Martel I are that’s great to hear your voice again after all these years thank you you’re welcome my question is whatever happened to Hale Bopp I know it came through I watched it in the summer of 97 just as clear as a bell with the two wings and it did bear a striking resemblance to the glyph of Nibiru that was in kitchens books and I read them all and I just wondered what ever happened to that planet where did it go I mean with that it we should have seen it on its return yeah the comment we should have seen it return on its return as it’s not a longer return home and then I believe right and yeah I think sir I again I’m not accurate but I would say that Nibiru excuse me uh Hale Bob’s comment was similar to Nibiru in that it was very elongated and it’s probably not going to come around into the inner part of our solar system for a very long time let’s let’s say it’s on a 3,600 year comparable orbit to Nibiru you know it might not be around for a long time but I can’t be extremely accurate to tell you exactly when that would be but I know it has an elongated orbit so it’s probably going quite a distance out before it’ll be all right all right Jesse in Utah hi there just fine I was curious you know the Bible a lot of stories in the Bible they seem like fantasy boner doomed sir hold it turn your radio off please sorry about that when you add in the fact of extraterrestrial beings you know the stories make a lot more sense I was just curious if maybe chances they just left out but you know Antient Aliens basically out of the Bible well sir I think it’s just a different slant on the term alien or angel all throughout the Bible Ezekiel seeing wheels within wheels Elijah being taken up to heaven in a whirlwind you know Moses on Mountain giving you know having this interaction with a burning bush and this you know this energy source up there I think what it is it’s just a different interpretation of what we would today call alien back then they simply use the term god but I think this is all a factual case of what took place in the past but they didn’t understand a spaceship or a space shuttle so they gave references to things around them like a burning bush or a chariot in the sky okay very quickly Ron in Canada I [Applause] deferments to talk to you art and years ago my wife and I went to and to Chichen Itza and before they closed the pyramid and I climbed to the top of teaching stuff expensable I don’t know 45 minutes up there just observing the landscape and and getting the feel of what what it was like up there and you couldn’t help but while feeling wonder what really went on there like they had an observatory there and on the top of the pyramid there’s the the little tomb of a small room that was up there that was really insignificant so anybody who really didn’t know much about CSUN he said the pyramid airing stuff I’ll have to hold it there I’m afraid Jason we are absolutely out of time and lowly understand it’s gone I want to thank you for being here do you have any place you want to refer anybody – I I noticed you haven’t written a book yet Simonson I do called knowledge apocalypse it’s available on Amazon knowledge apocalypse my final note would just be that I was an honor to be on your show and I hope to be back when I ciliated on expeditions we’re doing in 2014 24 – cheese 2014 teams my god I can’t say the numbers a long show okay and we’re gonna be using commercial grade drones to be getting some interesting b-roll Wow okay I’ll look forward to it and I certainly appreciate your appearance on the program tonight take care bye bye that’s Jason Martel and that’s it everybody thank you very much for being here we’ll be back and do it again tomorrow don’t forget thee

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